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JD Vance responds to Pope Leo's comments about immigration policy

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'We had 300,000 missing children under the Biden administration that the Mexican drug cartels brought into our country.'

Vice President J.D. Vance is defending the Trump administration’s enforcement of the U.S. government's immigration policies, which he says are consistent with Catholic Church teaching and Pope Leo XIV's own comments that every nation has the right to control its borders.

During an interview with Breitbart’s Matthew Boyle Thursday, Vance was asked to weigh in on Pope Leo XIV’s remarks on immigration, in which he said, “I think every country has a right to determine who and how and when people enter.”

“You may not know it, judging purely from the comments of some people on social media, but the Catholic Church’s views on this are actually quite clear,” Vance said.

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Am I seriously being asked to accept the Theological judgement of J.D. Vance over the Pope on matters of Catholic thinking and judgement?
Nobody asked you that.
 
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Am I seriously being asked to accept the Theological judgement of J.D. Vance over the Pope on matters of Catholic thinking and judgement?
It's a political judgement by Pope Leo, not a theological one.
 
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True story of mine, that demonstrates the confusion I and my fellow Catholics experienced in real life, at the local food pantry:

1) All food recipients were required to show proof that they lived in the local area, so that we could provide food only to local area residents, due to our limited resources

2) There was a sudden shift in about the year 2022, in which people came to pantry with a passport only and no proof of residence to show that they were from the local area we served

3) People we were trying to help were showing passports from other countries, and had nor proof of local address, such as a ID card or piece of recent mail

4) We were running out of food while people were still in line.

5) We had to cut back on whom we served, although it just really hurt us, as we believe in providing food to those who are hungry. We just could not meet the demands of car loads of people, all with only passports and no other ID, as well as local residents who were hungry.

6) We tried hard at first to serve everyone, but we could not.

What are supposed to do then? I take it that this real life experience is showing that we just pray-fully do what we can, and with much love, until there just simply are no more groceries.

Until there came into the picture a true "red herring" that threw this whole thing into quite a pickle:

Our priest.

He was letting himself into the pantry during off hours, to secretly give out food to those with a private appointment to see him, and he had mercy on them.

But he didn't report it, so we kept coming up short, and finger pointing went on and blaming of other volunteers.

I saw him doing it repeatedly, as I was at the parish all the time.

I told no one. I protected him and those he was secretly helping.
 
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It seems the Vatican invites everyone to the Vatican to 'dialogue' except President Trump and his administration. They know they have the leftist media in their pocket (as long as they shut up about abortion, transgender and marriage) so they choose to play that game. Vice President Vance, Tom Homan, etc. will reply in kind.
 
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