That is clearly for police officers, not for military operations.
The court did not in any way intend that ruling to apply to military operations.
You seem not to understand how this works.
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The court did not in any way intend that ruling to apply to military operations.
You seem not to understand how this works.
The standard is patently illegal. I would suggest that an example would be to fire on peaceful protestors. You’d hope this is impossible, but there are reasons for concern. https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/13/us/protests-legal-illegal-constitution-trump The most plausible situation would be a quickly developing one where lawyers didnt review it. Probably the Secretary of Defense or some layer of officer would not pass it on, but I’m less confident of that now than in Trump’s first term.
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Let me make a general statement here about military law:
Military justice is not philosophical. Military justice is about control of military forces. That's why things that are not crimes in the civilian community are crimes in the military. If philosophical justice happens in military law, that's merely coincidental.
Military justice is not philosophical. Military justice is about control of military forces. That's why things that are not crimes in the civilian community are crimes in the military. If philosophical justice happens in military law, that's merely coincidental.
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So, let's see if Trump's lawyers can come up with a novel way to designate peaceful protests as illegal.
And let's see if they come up with a novel way to order the military to prevent those "illegal protests."
And in the meantime, let's see if our brave and bold elected members of Congress take any actions to prevent that from happening in the first place so that it doesn't have to rest on the moral courage of some Generation Z National Guard corporal.
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Military personnel take an oath to the Constitution. It is also for military operations. Of course, they also have rules of engagement, which are far stricter than what police officers are supposed to follow.
I understand death. What military rule allows the military to kill civilians. There is nothing in the videos supplied to the public which shows any attempt to stop or disable the boats without killing the occupants. It has also not been provided to Congress.
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Military personnel do not have the authority to interpret the Constitution, however.
No military court is going to rule a presidential order as "unconstitutional."
That's never going to happen.
That is out of their jurisdictional wheelhouse.
The military kills civilians all the time. What are you talking about?
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Not if those Constitutional amendments had already been explained by SCOTUS.
Then you admit that the US military ignores the Geneva Convention and are guilty of war crimes.
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