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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

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NotreDame said:
For example, what does “lawlessness was already at work within both Adam…Eve” mean?
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Cited Mark 7:21-23, that evil thoughts defile everyone, A&E included, and referenced by Paul here for example:

Romans 11:32

For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

In addition to sin being "of the devil," 1 John 3:8

I know the drive to blame Adam and Eve and leave out the DEVIL from the equations is strong, and this happens when we are in denial of having the tempter in our own minds. It's a given principle in scripture.

NotreDame said:
Simply, there’s nothing in the plain text meaning or textual meaning of that Genesis verse claiming, alleging, inferring, or implying Eve had or experienced “lust.”
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Just addressed with bling above if you want to browse it

In any case Eve was clearly contemplating BREAKING GODS COMMAND in her MIND prior to eating i.e. LAWLESS THOUGHTS against God's Command, even stating the command erroneously, adding to God's Words (another violation).

Let's just say that believers who only condemn Adam and Eve and leave the DEVIL, the TEMPTER out of the picture clearly missed the picture for them, and more than likely miss it for themselves as well, to this day
 
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RDKirk said:
Romans 7:7–11 is the classic passage where Paul identifies the dynamic that the giving of a law creates an occasion for sinful desire. To put it another way, the command itself provokes the impulse to violate it.
Sin as a reality precedes knowledge. Wrong actions are objectively wrong, even if the person does not yet know.
Moral responsibility begins with knowledge. Once awareness arrives, the person is accountable for the wrongdoing. This principle appears dozens of times in Scripture.
Legal guilt is tied to command + knowledge. The command creates the standard. Knowledge triggers accountability. Before knowledge, there is sin but not accountability.
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Before existence of command, there is no sin of which to be guilty. There was no command between Adam and Moses.

'Where there is no law, there is no transgression." (Ro 4:15)
 
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