Why do people hate ICE...

rjs330 said:

Ah, I see. See, I consider anti-immigration to mean you don't want immigrants period. No immigration. I don't know of anyone that feels that way. At least any MAGA folks.

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Read these threads.

rjs330 said:

The most that could be said is that rhere are MAGA people who want it heavily restricted, but not ended. So, I don't know who you are referring to.

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I think I know who you are referring to.

Arizona tribal member nearly deported after Iowa jail issues ICE detainer by mistake​

The woman’s family had to scramble to prove she was Indigenous and shouldn’t be turned over to federal immigration authorities​

A day before Arizona native Leticia Jacobo was scheduled to be released from an Iowa jail, her mom visited to verify pickup details with the staff. Ericka Burns was excited to drive her daughter home after spending a month apart and wanted to make sure Jacobo wasn’t forced to wait a minute longer than necessary.

But jail staff told Burns that Jacobo wouldn’t be let go because she would be turned over to immigration agents — even though Jacobo is Native American.

The 24-year-old was born in Phoenix and is a member of Arizona’s Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community. She was booked into the Polk County Jail in Des Moines, Iowa, where she currently lives, in September for allegedly driving with a suspended license.

The ICE field office for the midwest region did not answer questions about whether they verify existing detainers for accuracy or what their processes are for ensuring Native Americans aren’t being detained.

[Aunt] Nunez told the Arizona Mirror she was skeptical that the mix-up was nothing more than a misunderstanding, and that discrimination wasn’t involved at least to some degree. She noted that Jacobo had her tribal identification with her, had been fingerprinted, had her Social Security number on file and has been booked into the same jail more than once.

essentialsaltes said:

We were all told that ICE would be going after the bad guys

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Only 16 of over 600 detained by ICE in Chicago area have criminal histories, records show​

The government was required to provide the list in court as a judge prepares to potentially release most of those people by next Friday, because their arrests potentially violated the terms of a court order restricting warrantless arrests.

Eric Balliet, a retired special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, worked for the department until last year after 25 years on the job, said the data regarding the ICE arrests erodes trust in the federal immigration crackdown in the Chicago area, in particular the Trump administration's repeated claims that they are targeting the "worst of the worst."

DaisyDay said:

Goalposts moved from "There aren't any anti-immigrant MAGA folks"

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MAGA Rages at Kristi Noem Saying Trump Admin Has ‘Sped Up’ Legal Immigration Process​

Noem was quickly dragged by prominent MAGA media influencers. The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh replied to a viral clip of her comments, “We do not want or need more people to become citizens.”

Steve Bannon’s White House correspondent Natalie Winters hit back, “Not sure what is worse: this actually happening or the admin thinking this is a ‘win.’”

essentialsaltes said:

MAGA Rages at Kristi Noem Saying Trump Admin Has ‘Sped Up’ Legal Immigration Process​

Noem was quickly dragged by prominent MAGA media influencers. The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh replied to a viral clip of her comments, “We do not want or need more people to become citizens.”

Steve Bannon’s White House correspondent Natalie Winters hit back, “Not sure what is worse: this actually happening or the admin thinking this is a ‘win.’”

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@rjs330 - this seems to be the link you were requesting...

Federal officials confirm officers have begun Charlotte immigration enforcement

US army veteran who received Purple Heart deported by ICE to Mexico​

An army veteran and Purple Heart recipient who served two tours in Iraq was deported on Friday morning from an immigration detention facility in Florence, Arizona.

Barco’s father was a political dissident in Cuba who spoke out against communism, forcing his family to flee to Venezuela in the 1980s. Four years after Barco was born, his family entered the US with asylum, and were later given lawful permanent resident status.

Barco, 39, served 15 years in prison for a felony conviction of attempted murder.

Barco was released on parole this January after serving 15 years due to good behavior. Upon release, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement detained Barco and took him to a detention center in Colorado.

DaisyDay said:

@rjs330 - this seems to be the link you were requesting...

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This doesn't support what was stated. They aren't saying they want no immigration. They want seriously controlled immigration.

I do too. Speeding up rhe process isn't what we want. We want a controlled immigration which may include severely limited immigration including a possibilility of no immigration until we get illegal immigration under control.

If 100,000 people apply for visas or citizenship or whatever and they are ALL good people with no records or no supporters of terrorism or terror regimes etc, doesn't mean we have to take them.
What we want is people we we really need. Ones that will be beneficial to this country with skills that we need. People that wont take jobs away from Americans but will supplement jobs where qualified Americans can't be found.

Its not anti-immigration where they don't want immigrants just cause they don't want immigrants.

Heavily and severely controlled immigration is what is needed.

essentialsaltes said:

Only 16 of over 600 detained by ICE in Chicago area have criminal histories, records show​

The government was required to provide the list in court as a judge prepares to potentially release most of those people by next Friday, because their arrests potentially violated the terms of a court order restricting warrantless arrests.

Eric Balliet, a retired special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, worked for the department until last year after 25 years on the job, said the data regarding the ICE arrests erodes trust in the federal immigration crackdown in the Chicago area, in particular the Trump administration's repeated claims that they are targeting the "worst of the worst."

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Don't care what the left thinks. He said he was going to do mass deportations. That's what we voted for.

essentialsaltes said:

Noem was quickly dragged by prominent MAGA media influencers. The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh replied to a viral clip of her comments, “We do not want or need more people to become citizens.”

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We don't need or want more citizens. We have enough right now. We especially don't need more citizens from 3rd world countries who are coming here and transforming areas into where they came from.

essentialsaltes said:

“Not sure what is worse: this actually happening or the admin thinking this is a ‘win.’”

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I think streamlining the process is good. I think cutting down on the paperwork is good. And better vetting is good as well. I'm concerned that its not good enough.

rjs330 said:

Don't care what the left thinks. He said he was going to do mass deportations. That's what we voted for.

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I'm not concerned with what liberals say either, but I do care about what Jesus says.

“feed the hungry, give water to thirsty, give shelter to stranger, clothed the naked, look after the sick, visit those who are in prison. (Matt 25) , take care the widow ( Acts 6), give justice to the weak and fatherless ( Psalm 82) take care immigrants ( Deut 10:19 / Psalm 146), whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ ( Matt 25:40)

I fully support President Trump’s efforts to enhance border security. However, the situations occurring within the country, such as in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, and now in Charlotte , are contrary to biblical teachings. Pope Leo is entirely correct in asserting that anyone who claims to be pro-life but condones inhumane treatment of others cannot truly be considered pro-life.

I'm glad the Catholic bishop spoke out against ICE actions. I'm curious how Protestant Christians will respond—will they remain silent about family separations, deporting parents while leaving children behind, or ICE agents arresting people at schools churches? American Protestantism has often aligned with the wrong side of history or remained silent. Many U.S. Protestant evangelicals were largely quiet during the civil rights, women's suffrage, and abolitionist movements. Will they remain silent today?

rjs330 said:

We don't need or want more citizens.

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Then you are anti-immigration. It’s that simple.

I say we do want and need more citizens. What makes your opinion more valid than mine, as an American?

rjs330 said:

We have enough right now.

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I disagree. We need more.

rjs330 said:

We especially don't need more citizens from 3rd world countries who are coming here and transforming areas into where they came from.

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We especially need more from the 3rd world as wealthy people from modern countries don’t have a need to seek a better life.