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Wes Huff Responds to Claim the Bible Was ‘Compiled Hundreds of Years’ After Jesus by a ‘Pagan Emperor for Political Reasons’

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Apologist Wes Huff recently responded to an influencer who claimed that the Bible was created hundreds of years after the time of Jesus “by a pagan emperor for political reasons.” In a post on Instagram, Adam Allred made a series of unorthodox claims about Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible.

“The Bible was literally voted on by a bunch of politicians and bishops in a room deciding what made the cut and what didn’t out of mounds of texts, centuries after the fact,” Allred said. “That’s like building your spiritual life around the minutes of a corporate board meeting.”

“This reference to a pagan emperor who supposedly compiled the books of the Bible,” said Huff in his response, “I only have to assume is referring to Constantine and the Council of Nicea. But there are some truly serious problems with this.”

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Apologist Wes Huff recently responded to an influencer who claimed that the Bible was created hundreds of years after the time of Jesus “by a pagan emperor for political reasons.” In a post on Instagram, Adam Allred made a series of unorthodox claims about Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible.

“The Bible was literally voted on by a bunch of politicians and bishops in a room deciding what made the cut and what didn’t out of mounds of texts, centuries after the fact,” Allred said. “That’s like building your spiritual life around the minutes of a corporate board meeting.”

“This reference to a pagan emperor who supposedly compiled the books of the Bible,” said Huff in his response, “I only have to assume is referring to Constantine and the Council of Nicea. But there are some truly serious problems with this.”

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It seems like every generation of Protestants (sorry, my Protestant brethren) has their "enlightened critics of how the Catholic Church (along with its Eastern counterpart, the Orthodox Church) has corrupted Christianity. Just like the same repetitive questions that come up here on the Christian Forum, people need to do a little bit more investigating before they make unsubstantiated criticisms about the Catholic Church that have been debunked many times over. Wes Huff has been known to make quite a few mistakes in his research and presentations. He really isn't a very good reliable source.

Someday, we will be all happily together in the same Church then, look out world God's unified Church will be a loving and wiser Church to be reckoned with.
 
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It matters not about the new testament being politically motivated. After all, it all as we have it was taken from OT scripture, and that was considered sound. If anything the only major problem at the time was that the new religion sold out the Kingdom in favour of partnering itself with the Kingdom's opposition, the world of man. Squabbling over the NT compilation seems rather irrelevant by comparison.
 
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I've just discovered Wes Huff over the past year and since watched all of his longer, substantial apologetic videos on YouTube. So far, I find his insight, teaching and defense of the Bible to be as credible as his academic background. In this case, he countered the popular, false sceptic attack and deserves thankful compliments from Christians.
 
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I suppose this Emperor traveled back in time to 68 CE and deposited 15,000 documents in the Dead Sea Caves. These documents have been dated to 300 BCE.
 
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Step by step...

" the Bible was created hundreds of years after the time of Jesus “by a pagan emperor for political reasons.”"

True (as we know it) but only if one considers the emperor was unifying the empire after civil war and this religion was a tool in doing so. It had helped in his winning the war against the latin side of the empire by using crosses on armor to convince opposing soldiers, who were Christian, to surrender or switch sides, rather than fight their own..

“Jesus wasn’t a Christian. He was a Jew. And he didn’t come to create a religion.”

Fact.

" be honest with ourselves and start listening to the truth that is behind it,”

True

"Jesus’ priority was people’s hearts, not churches, denominations, or dogma."

True. It is man that likes to institutionalize everything. Jesus' 'church' was built upon the rock solid foundation of God's truths, not man's.

“deeply flawed men, written, rewritten, translated, re-translated, filtered through kings, priests and politicians.”

As scholars and the oldest texts, the Dead sea scrolls, have shown

“argued over by 45,000 different Christian denominations who all swear they’re the ones who are right for 2,000 years"

Undeniable

“Kids do not need theological degrees. They need simple truth.”
“The gospel that Jesus taught is not about control; it’s about freedom,”


See Jesus' mention of children and His feud with the Sanhedrin. One suggests simple truth and the other calling out human government and control as humans use God for their own purposes.

"Dr. Eric Mason, founder and senior pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia, commented on Allred’s post, “I cannot even believe he made all of these fallacious [claims,] say the Bible was written by Constantine.”

That was never said that I can see. Is this then false witness? For what purpose?

"Jesus was indeed a Jew, Huff acknowledged, and Jesus was not a Christian because Christians did not exist yet. They derived their name from Jesus. And it is true he did not come to start a religion. “He came to fulfill that which was prophesied about him already,” said Huff."

Agreed

“Those first Christians were Jews who believed in Jesus as the Messiah........... they didn’t cease to become Jews. They weren’t converting to a new religion.”

Exactly, but they were indeed what would be the first of the new movement which would eventually be called Christian.

" Because they were and already had been considered authoritative Scripture for centuries.”

Some, not all. The idea was to weed out what did not fit, especially with Hellenistic thinking, in order to unify what would become a controlling governmental religion within the empire, dictating authourity over the rebellious factions of the religion to eliminate dissent, and later filtering out the Jew..

"he said that no one would live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God,” said Huff. "

Huff tries to take scripture that refers to the OT and apply it to the NT. Misappropriated.

"Huff encouraged his viewers to take Allred’s advice to listen for the truth and to do their own research."

True.

“voted on by bishops under a pagan emperor,” “didn’t even exist in [Jesus’] lifetime,” and “is not God.”

True but not only was the compilation eventually used as a unifying tool within the empire's religion but also became our prime source of the Will of the Father and the story of His struggle with adversity in both us and elohim. It can be used for both good and evil purposes

"and he strongly suggested that knowledge and education were antithetical to truly knowing God."

Yes, if it means having to adhere to strict doctrinal shackles of man, rather than the freedom to continually seek God as we are commanded to do. There is no final say by an institution as they insist. Salvation is a personal goal, not to be guided by a human agenda rather than the Kingdom which they rejected in the Empire's time.

"Any time you question the authority, the first people to rush to its defense are the ones who treat their degrees like divine credentials,” said Allred, “as if God speaks louder to men with titles than men without.”

Such has always been the way of man, especially those who seek power. Every governing body of man seeks the same while the Kingdom of God is the opposite. Is it any wonder that the more man learns to think for themselves that authourity increases surveillance. Today is a prime example of power fearing for itself. Its time is coming to an end as the will of God will replace the selfishness of mankind.

“Theological certainty is spiritual death. And it was those who claimed to know God and speak for God, who ultimately crucified God’s son."

Absolutely, or Jesus wouldn't have said to continually seek God. He wouldn't have disputed the clergy. He wouldn't have said God's Will be done, not man's. And yes they did crucify Him just as they have always destroyed that which offends their notion of authourity or credibility.

As for the people's comments mentioned, God has always had to face opposition by those who would rather defend the world and the authourity and institutions of man over God's simple truth. A team mentality when it comes to denominations proves that. Worldly is as worldly does and will always defend self before the will of God..

But the bottom line is both of these people are distracting us, as did the church and all politics since, from the real message of God's Will overcoming the will of both man and elohim. Jesus accomplished as a servant to God what the House of Israel failed to do when they were given the chance to serve the Father. Mission was accomplished and it is senseless to focus on human discrepancies rather than promote what was accomplished. I am sure the Adversary would prefer to keep quiet its failure and seek to control the narrative by promoting argument over human political history, drawing us back into the world. The good news (gospel), first and foremost, is that the Kingdom overcame the elohim controlled nations of man and adversity to the Father. It precedes all other gospels. It was His intent.
 
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