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The Vatican's stance on the Virgin Mary as Co- Redemtrix.

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Hi, I was first told about this by a non denominational Protestant. She said the Pope doesn't want you to worship or pray to the Virgin Mary. I told her to hold on and I pulled out the truth. I don't have an issue with it. I never considered the Virgin to be equal to Christ.

It seems Protestants online are running with this idea that the Virgin is not to be prayed to. I have to go now and pray my Rosary!

 

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It clarified what might be called "unhelpful" terms.

The Vatican’s doctrinal office said Tuesday the title of “Co-Redemptrix” is not an appropriate way to describe Mary’s participation in salvation.

In Mater Populi Fidelis (“The Mother of the Faithful People of God”), the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) said when an expression requires frequent explanation to maintain the correct meaning, it becomes unhelpful.

In addition to “Co-Redemptrix,” the document also addressed at length the Marian title “Mediatrix” or “Mediatrix of All Graces,” analyzing related Church teaching on Mary’s role as intercessor.

The DDF concluded that “some titles, such as ‘Mediatrix of All Graces,’ have limits that do not favor a correct understanding of Mary’s unique place.”

They still emphasised her unique role as "Mother of God" in the sense she was the "Mother of Christ, the Son of God".

The dicastery encouraged the use of other expressions for Mary, specifically titles referring to her motherhood, including “Mother of God” and “Mother of the Faithful People of God.”

“She is the mother who gave the world the author of redemption and of grace, who stood firm at the foot of the cross (cf. John 19:25), suffering alongside her son and offering the pain of her maternal heart pierced by the sword (cf. Luke 2:35),” the document said. “From the Incarnation to the cross and the Resurrection, she was united to Christ in a way that is unique and that far surpasses any other believer.”

My Protestant pastor, who was not anti-Catholic, said two things about Marian apparitions. First "There's been a lot of them" and second "I think they're a judgement on a divided church".

If Protestants think she has no special role, they're very much mistaken.

When Christ said to John at the foot of the cross, "Behold your mother", and to Mary "Behold your son", John was standing in as proxy for all the faithful people of God, hence the term "Mother of the Faithful People of God". Christ was God in the flesh and His words had more import than a mere local acknowledgement of one man. They were transcendant.
 
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