Deal Reached To End The Government Shutdown

Jup, that's how you're supposed to do it. Reach across the aisle and hash out a deal that has enough support to pass the required votes, don't just cross your arms and hold the country hostage.

Kind of a lost art.

Obviously the deadlock has reached overseas news outlets, our own ABC included.


Meanwhile it seems the politicians were still getting paid, as they shafted the workers paychecks.

While federal employees go without their pay cheques, the politicians have continued to be paid.

"They're taking it lighter than they should, because they're not the ones on the streets going through this … they're not the ones that are actually running out of money," Amy said.

"I feel like they should not get their pay cheques in the process too."

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Now we all gasp in surprise (again) when the the concessions they agreed to later (again) don’t happen as anticipated (again) and our erratic president justifies reneging (again) to the detriment of the nation (again) while all the people who follow him blindly excuse it (again) because they will gladly set their own house on fire if it means they can pretend they “pwned the libz.”

I think at a certain point, the more pragmatic democrats realized that they weren't holding enough cards to play the level of hardball they were trying to play any longer.





Ultimately, the numbers don't lie... There's only so much leverage you can exert when you don't have control of any of the branches of government.

Had this been after the mid-terms (in which there's forecasting suggesting quite a few house seats will flip from red to blue), then it'd be a different story. But as it currently stands, there was no way to end the shutdown without the Democrats making more concessions than the Republicans. "Hill to die on" politics only works when you control a branch...or at the very least, one of the chambers of the legislature.


I'm guessing the Democrats involved in brokering this deal a realization that it's time to stop the bleeding, and hope voters will forget about this before the mid terms.

The last thing they'd want people to think is "wait...you kept this shutdown going for this long, when you knew you never had the numbers to eventually win this fight?"

Tim Kaine - who's in a state with over 100k federal workers - made a statement (justifying his support for voting in favor of re-opening) to the effect of "people are expecting their elected officials to vote to reopen, and those who don't, could very well be replaced at the ballot box"

Valletta said:

It was a strange move by the Democrats because they weren't just asking for one thing. The Democrats added new spending in foreign countries for a number of causes that the GOP opposed, besides the removal of wording that closed up loopholes for illegals receiving taxpayer funded health care.

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What was the exact wording?

Valletta said:

Yes, although there was always strong partisanship, people from both sides used to be able to get together. Things have really changed in this last decade, maybe this will be a start toward going back to civility.

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No chance. The democratic power will still oppose anything they can, if one house of congress switches to them in the midterms it will be 2 years of gridlock, and should government switch to the democratic party in 2028, it will be just the same, just with the roles reversed. This song and dance has been going on at least since the midterms of Obama's first term, with early signs probably happening for a lot longer.

It's like the prisoners dilemma. Once one side breaches the social contract of working together through adversity, the only winning strategy is to go full resistance whenever you get the chance.

I doubt we will see a change in this in our lifetime. Certainly not as long as GOP is the MAGA party.

Besides that, as far as I can tell, the democratic party got absolutely nothing concrete and just some vague promises that have little to do with what they claimed was their main motivation. I don't really understand why people would vote for them in the midterms after such a dismal performance, but enough people might vote against Trump.

Tropical Wilds said:

Now we all gasp in surprise (again) when the the concessions they agreed to later (again) don’t happen as anticipated (again) and our erratic president justifies reneging (again) to the detriment of the nation (again) while all the people who follow him blindly excuse it (again) because they will gladly set their own house on fire if it means they can pretend they “pwned the libz.”

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Expect there to be a fresh new distraction/ controversy that will keep the public preoccupied.

Nithavela said:

Jup, that's how you're supposed to do it. Reach across the aisle and hash out a deal that has enough support to pass the required votes, don't just cross your arms and hold the country hostage.

Kind of a lost art.

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And there are lots of furious Democrats, ready to disembowel these traitorous deal making lawmakers. I first got clue of this deal to re-open the government when I was reading on Substack this morning and came across an article that started with the pictures of these 'traitors'. The comments were vile, full of f-bombs, promises that these folks would be primaried out of the Democratic Party for their compromise. One popular sentiment was that they caved in right when the Democrats were actually winning.

You say it's a lost art. I think you are right. But apparently it only opens up the government for another two months. Then they get to do it all over again after this new continuing resolution expires.

Valletta said:

Yes, although there was always strong partisanship, people from both sides used to be able to get together. Things have really changed in this last decade, maybe this will be a start toward going back to civility.

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I think it's just a setup to do it all over again in a few months when this resolution expires. Sorry to be such a pessimist.