Profane to Divine: Does God Drag You Through the Church Doors—or Do You Drag Your Feet?

bob121 said:

Hope you had a great day, thank you for your lengthy reply, happy to keep the iron sharp, Sister

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Thank you and blessings!

bob121 said:

You’ve asked for one verse in which Jesus or an inspired writer says, “The weekly Sabbath assembly is now transferred to the first day.”
Honest answer: that sentence does not exist.
But the absence cuts both ways.
After Calvary there is no inspired command, example, or warning that continues the seventh-day convocation for the body of Christ.
What we do have, in the only inspired history we possess, is:

• Resurrection appearances deliberately clustered on “the first day of the week” (Jn 20:1, 19, 26
• The only post-Pentecost weekday service Luke records is first-day (Acts 20:7).
• The only repeated weekly duty Paul singles out is first-day (1 Cor 16:2).
• By Revelation the day already bears the theological title “the Lord’s Day” (1:10).

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This does not seem like you are interested in having an honest discussion about these verses I asked where does the Scripture say in any of these verses that the Sabbath commandment ended and was now transferred to the first day, everything God blessed and sanctified by the power of God was now given to the first day a day God made for work and labors Exo20:9. You just keep repeating the same verses that still do not say this. I did briefly address these verses but we can look at them deeper if you want, but only God can reverse His blessing Num23:20 only God can sanctify a day and us (both connected to the Sabbath) , so we really need to hear these words plainly to make an honest change in God’s Holy Word.

Also we cannot honestly use Rev1:10 as day one when the Scriptures clearly does not say or support this. God personally spoke what His holy day is and said it is the seventh day, the Sabbath Exo20:10 Isa 58:18 , it came out of the mouth of God Jesus told us to live by Mat4:4 so we do not need to guess God’s holy day, He said so plainly, the Sabbath is the Holy Day of the Lord Isa58:13, meaning there is only one, that Jesus who is God is Lord of the Sabbath day, not the first day. When God speaks, He means what He says, the issue is man thinks they know better, when we are the creation and should be His servant Isa56:6

bob121 said:

Silence on the other side is just as real:

• No post-Cross epistle tells Gentile churches, “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.”
• No council (Acts 15) imposes Sabbath-keeping on converts.

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The God of the Universe was not silent why God wrote His laws from tables of stone (only the Ten Commandments) to tables of the heart 2Cor2:3 Heb8:10. God wrote His laws in the hearts and minds of the New Covenant believers, God already defined His laws in His written and spoken Testimony. Exo31:18 Deut 4:13 Paul came after the covenant was ratified. He can’t change God’s commandments, he is not God, he himself says he is a servant of God. That said it clearly shows the Sabbath did not end in the NC by words of Jesus and the apotles and by actions. I can post lots of reference and the Gentiles were keeping every Sabbath with the Jews and apostles Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 and in Acts 15:21 clearly showing the Sabbath was kept reading the Scriptures in church, in every town, throughout generations, so its weird people use Acts 15 against the Sabbath when it states clearly the Sabbath was being kept. Is that not New Covenant? This was decades after the Cross. Just as Jesus indicated His faithful would be doing Mat24:20 Isa56:6-7

bob121 said:

• No prophecy says the weekly Sabbath will be the end-time test of loyalty (Rev 14:7 quotes creation, not the Decalogue calendar).

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It’s almost an exact quote of the 4th commandment Exo20:11 which reveals the God we are to worship in the first three commandments.

bob121 said:

So the discussion must move from “Produce one transfer verse” (none exists) to “Which trajectory does the Spirit highlight in the only inspired record we have?”
I’m willing to walk through Hebrews 4, Colossians 2, Isaiah 66—wherever the text takes us—provided we let all the silences speak as well as the promises.
Ready when you are

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We can’t move forward if you do not address what has already been addressed. The resurrection, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2 do not say anything about a change to one of God’s commandments. God already spoke clearly on this matter Psa89:34 Mat5:18-30 Jesus certainly never told one soul about a change. He is Lord of the Sabbath and the Sabbath comes with the power of His blessing and sanctification, Sunday comes by the power of man Dan7:25, why you will not find one thus saith the Lord to support this theory. It’s a man-made tradition, that sadly competes with what the Lord of the Sabbath said so plainly about His Sabbath. He changes not, we just need to get back to what God says, there is no one greater. It’s why we have such a huge salvation warning about Pauls writing, because sadly people use it against the God of the universe, when its not at all what Paul is saying if looking at the context and reconciling it with the rest of God’s Word.

Regarding Heb 4, Col2 Isa66 I am happy to go over any one of these verses. You can pick and let me know.

I hope this can be fruitful for us both.

God bless.

More often the one fold of the meanings of Church has been overlooked.
The Kingdom in the midst of us is an intangible kingdom formed by Christians. It's about the pens of sheep Jesus asked to take care of. At the same time, preaching the Gospel is every Christian's duty, as a citizen of the kingdom. Preaching the gospel represents love as well. It's for love of men that we preach. It's for love of God that we preach as we know that God cares.

As an individual, we don't go to remote regions to preach the gospel, we don't go to tribes in Africa to preach the gospel. We have to reply on Church to do this, we as individuals however need to pull resources, donate to a church for it to do so. Church from this perspective, is a McDonald frachise established and it extended to all corners of earth. A church gathers resources and money from the its congregations in order to expand and to preach the gospel to remote regions such as the tribes in Africa.

Every Christian shall preach the gospel, as it's for the love men and the love of God.
Every Christian shall attend church for the same reason, it's for the love of God and men.

Mcdonald is to sell burgers, Church is to save souls. Should I say it's God's business that we should participate.