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You aren't a faultless catcher nor a perfect typist if you can't.
And you aren't sinless unless you can be without sin.
And if you're not free to be without sin, then you are not totally free, your moral freedom is limited.
Keeping in mind that "free will" (ability to make all moral choices) is not Biblical, it is a notion of man (Pelagius).
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Freedom is a different subject all together.
Free will does not require true freedom. It is simply the freedom to make and act on our own, regardless of the consequences.
So, anyone can exercise their God given gift of free will, and be in bondage.
Atheists for example may not submit to God, but they can still choose not to give in to the temptation to wait in a back alley and hit their annoying neighbor on the head with a hammer.
They can, and do choose not to molest their girl child. etc.
Having true freedom is something gained when one submits to God's will, even though, as Paul said... "16 I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, that the Law is good. 17 But now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that good does not dwell in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20 But if I do the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin that dwells in me." Romans 7:16-20
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So as far as sin goes they’re pretty much the same? Neither are completely absent from sin and neither are completely absent from doing good?
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