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Previously addressed. . .see post #2.

Can you choose to be sinless, to never sin?
If you can, why have you not done so?
Can you choose to live a perfectly sinless life?
 
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That’s like saying I can’t catch a ball unless I can catch it every single time without missing it.
Or I can’t type on a keyboard unless I can do it perfectly every time without missing a key. It’s nonsensical.
You aren't a faultless catcher nor a perfect typist if you can't.

And you aren't sinless unless you can be without sin.

And if you're not free to be without sin, then you are not totally free, your moral freedom is limited.

Keeping in mind that "free will" (ability to make all moral choices) is not Biblical, it is a notion of man (Pelagius).
 
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After coming to Christ IS ANYONE CAPABLE OF NEVER SINNING AGAIN? If not are they still slaves to sin?
The born again are not slaves to sin, nor are they totaly free of sin.
 
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I have been thinking about this since you mentioned it. Its a different way to look at free will. Not from the freedoms humans demand like individual right to self determination or autonomy. We constantly here about individual and group rights to freedoms.

But from the other side of the coin. When humans become too rightful of their own self rights and will. To the point that it leads to actual bondage and loss of freedom.

Then its a case that we have to admit defeat and realise we are really not good at knowing what is freedom at all. That its actually by surrendering that we gain true freedom and control. Its paradoxial to this world.

But I think its a truth principle in life and it stems back to Christs example of His sacrifice in overcoming sin and death that we can be truely free.
Freedom is a different subject all together.
Free will does not require true freedom. It is simply the freedom to make and act on our own, regardless of the consequences.
So, anyone can exercise their God given gift of free will, and be in bondage.

Atheists for example may not submit to God, but they can still choose not to give in to the temptation to wait in a back alley and hit their annoying neighbor on the head with a hammer.
They can, and do choose not to molest their girl child. etc.

Having true freedom is something gained when one submits to God's will, even though, as Paul said... "16 I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, that the Law is good. 17 But now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that good does not dwell in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20 But if I do the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin that dwells in me." Romans 7:16-20
 
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The born again are not slaves to sin, nor are they totaly free of sin.
So as far as sin goes they’re pretty much the same? Neither are completely absent from sin and neither are completely absent from doing good?
 
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