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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

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The Democrats are refusing to sign the CR to reopen the government, even if that means SNAP is cut off and 1.5 million government employees go without pay.
Trump has the funds to keep SNAP going, and court orders have required him to do so. His refusing those court orders isn't on Democrats.

The Republicans never said they refuse health care. They are however refusing to give into blackmail.
Of course they won't admit that. But it is what they are doing.

-- A2SG. not like anyone expects honesty from the GOP these days....
 
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Trump has the funds to keep SNAP going, and court orders have required him to do so. His refusing those court orders isn't on Democrats.


Of course they won't admit that. But it is what they are doing.
The Democrats are willing to keep the shutdown going regardless of SNAP being paid out or not.

As of November 8, 2025, the Trump administration is actively seeking to withhold a portion of the funding needed to fully pay for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits for November amid a government shutdown. The administration argues it lacks the legal authority and sufficient funds to provide the full amount. - Google

Only the Democrats signing the CR will result in an immediate resolution to SNAP and 1.5 civil servants finally getting paid.
 
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Trump healthcare plan just dropped.

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Everyone knows individuals can negotiate the best healthcare prices possible!
 
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Trump healthcare plan just dropped.

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Everyone knows individuals can negotiate the best healthcare prices possible!
President Biff Tannen doesn't seem to understand how risk spreading works. It is the principle behind *all* insurance. It is no wonder he failed in a business based on the same statistical principles.
 
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In passing...https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/08/senate-republicans-trump-obamacare

'...a social media post on Saturday from Markwayne Mullin, an Oklahoma senator. Mullin posted four photographs of himself and two other Republican senators meeting with Trump in the Oval Office, with the caption: “Working through the weekend with President Donald J Trump. It’s always an honor to be in the Oval Office– I never take this opportunity to serve Oklahoma for granted.”

Well, at least Trump is there in the Oval Office, nose to the grindstone, working whatever hours needed to end this dispute on behalf of all Americans. Except...

'...the photographs were taken on Friday, before Trump left for a weekend golf trip at his Florida resort.'

Let them eat cake!
 
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The Democrats are willing to keep the shutdown going regardless of SNAP being paid out or not.
Because the shutdown needn't affect SNAP benefits. It only does because the Republicans want it that way.

As of November 8, 2025, the Trump administration is actively seeking to withhold a portion of the funding needed to fully pay for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits for November amid a government shutdown. The administration argues it lacks the legal authority and sufficient funds to provide the full amount. - Google

Only the Democrats signing the CR will result in an immediate resolution to SNAP and 1.5 civil servants finally getting paid.
Trump can say that he "lacks the legal authority" to provide funds, but he's lying.

-- A2SG, shocker, I know....
 
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