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Are we only able to believe the Bible is true, or can we KNOW its true.

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The bible is for born again Christians. It only becomes true and real inside of us after we are born again, not before.

What is a born again Christian? Because I was baptized as an infant, in denominations some would regard as not “born again” (a high church former Methodist Episcopal parish of the UMC, a congregationalist denomination, an Anglican church, and the Orthodox Church) and i’ve always believed every word of it to be the truth.
 
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Knowing and believing are not the same thing.

Someone can come to me and tell me they saw a bass the size of a beagle, I take their word for it and believe them and go to the pond where they claimed it was, but there is no way for me to know they are telling me the truth, I just have faith.

Just like I would have to have faith they are telling me the truth about the large fish, I would have to have faith of the testimony and stories in the Bible being fact?

I do believe the Bible is true, but can I know for sure? Or can nobody know as long as they have not met the Lord.
Knowing takes revelation from the Holy Spirit.
Many people grow up in a church and hear and believe but it is deeper when the Holy Spirit moves and reveals the scripture is truth.
 
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What is a born again Christian? Because I was baptized as an infant, in denominations some would regard as not “born again” (a high church former Methodist Episcopal parish of the UMC, a congregationalist denomination, an Anglican church, and the Orthodox Church) and i’ve always believed every word of it to be the truth.

That sounds like one of those questions where I provide an honest reply and the person begins to argue with me.
 
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What is a born again Christian? Because I was baptized as an infant, in denominations some would regard as not “born again” (a high church former Methodist Episcopal parish of the UMC, a congregationalist denomination, an Anglican church, and the Orthodox Church) and i’ve always believed every word of it to be the truth.
Jesus says in the Bible that you cannot go to heaven unless born again. Born again means hearing the gospel and being saved by belief/faith. Born from the word of God.
 
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Did you ever eat eggs before the age of two? The only way to know is through your parents’ testimony. Yet, they could lie — even for what they believe to be a “good” reason. This shows that the same vessel capable of conveying truth can also carry falsehood. That is why everyone must rely on faith to decide whether their parents are telling the truth. This is the very nature of testimony itself. While it is the only possible means of communicating truth, it can also serve to communicate lies — a limitation that comes from human frailty. Humanity depends on “faith in testimony” to grasp truth, yet testimonies are capable of deception, and humans lack the means to bypass this uncertainty.

This dynamic plays out every day. A familiar example is the 2020 U.S. election. Did Biden truly win the votes, or was it Trump? The information we receive comes in the form of testimonies, not direct evidence. When both sides use the same vessel—testimony—to deliver opposite claims, humans are unable to discern which is true, even though one must be false. Lacking the ability to verify further, people are forced to choose whom to believe. Put another way, if the so-called “evidence” were readily available, no rational person would have stormed the U.S. Capitol with a gun.

In a broader sense, the entire purpose of Earth is a test of faith—and so is the Bible. Both Eden and Earth are models of Heaven (and even of Hell), where angels coexist with humans. Angels are endowed with far greater intelligence and ability than humans. For this reason, humankind was utterly defeated both in Eden and on Earth. Humans live under the Law, captives without hope, destined for destruction by a flood. Yet, the self-sacrifice of Jesus changed everything. Through Him, humans who were dead under the Law may live through Faith. Faith remains the only weapon through which humanity can break its chains.
 
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We are as sure as an anchor.
You can know.

I never liked the term 'believe' for Christianity, like 'we believe we can do it' like 'maybe we can, I think we can, I believe we can.' No, that's not right. We can know absolutely
 
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