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ICE officers to attend Super Bowl after Bad Bunny halftime headliner announcement, Lewandowski says
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I don't know if it's quite that drastic...
But I've noticed over the past 5 years or so, there's a "progressive playbook" on these sorts of things...
Step 1: Do something that clearly intended for shock value
Step 2: Wait until a subset of people are predictably shocked by it
Step 3: Portray it as "ridiculous" that people are shocked by it, and gaslight and pretend that what they're doing is unremarkable
This has a lot of similarities to the Sam Smith stuff that happened at the Grammy awards. Almost the exact same pattern, actually.
Being a Gen X'er, I remember when artists going for shock value used to own it and didn't mince words about why they were doing it. I can respect that angle.
But today, it's an approach where they're clearly going for that shock value, but then gaslight and pretend the thing they're doing shouldn't even be considered shocking in the first place "Gee, why are you so shocked by this?" (as if there's something wrong with the other person)
When the Red Hot Chili Peppers used to get on stage and perform in nothing but tube socks, it was pretty evident why they were doing it, they (and their fans) thought it was funny, and they got a little jolt from intentionally offending the "stuffy old people".
Nobody tried to deny or deflect by acting all aloof like "Hmmm...why would people be shocked by that? Sounds like they're just overly sensitive"
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I dispute that a lot of this shocking! contemporary stuff is meant to shock. I think most of it is just in group identification, as well as what actually interests the artist.
Trying to be shocking is worn out and passe.
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Which group would Bad Bunny be trying to identify with? From all accounts I've read, he's straight (and to my knowledge, doesn't practice "the dark arts" so to speak)
So dressing up as a woman with a bondage fetish collar, chained to demons for a music video, would be things that just generally interest him?
If it is his sincere general interest, then the labelling of "sexual and demonic" that pundits have tossed out should be viewed as a fair labelling of the situation.
If it's not his sincere interest, then the shock value label I tossed out there would be apropos.
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In this case youre just guessing, unless you have some actual insight into his motives. But I think you would have said so.
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Is there an option C here?
It's either A) something that's a genuine interest that he wants to portray in his art form (as you stated), or B) something he's doing for shock value to get attention (as I stated)
Are there any other rationales that would make sense for that?
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Performing in tube socks is "shocking"?
Why would anyone be shocked by that, seriously? Biting the head off a live bat was shocking. Destroying expensive equipment on stage was shocking. Even Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction was mildly shocking.
Wearing loafers without socks or socks without loafers is simply not.
What is shocking about Bad Bunny?
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They were wearing tube socks on their "manhood", and nothing else.
It wasn't a case where they were wearing socks the normal way lol.
Are you familiar with any of Bad Bunny's music videos?
I personally don't get "shocked" by it (I was a fan of RHCP back in the day...as well as Black Flag, Iggy Pop, etc...)
But I an easily see how it's considered a bit "much" for a lot of middle America.
Even with example you cited...biting the heads off bats, or perhaps an even more "over the top" one -- GWAR with a big fake piece of male anatomy on stage that shoots at the crowd...
Nobody deflected on those and said "what's so offensive or shocking about biting bat heads? Sounds like a 'you problem' if you're offended by that" -- they were more direct and honest in their intent. "You're shocked/offended by that? Good, because that's the point...to give a middle finger to your traditional norms"
But now they don't "own it" like they used to.
They're doing things that are intentionally designed to "push boundaries" and "challenge norms", but then play the defense of claiming that the things they were doing were already normal.
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That's an important detail to leave out. Nevertheless, that's more funny than shocking as long as the socks were secure. Nope. Do you think that the SuperBowl performance will have anything shocking?
While what is normal in one group is not in another, attention is necessary for fame and fortune. I just don't see getting all het up over this.
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I cant really go any further than this as it would require me to actually encounter mind numbing plastic reggaeton music.
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There's always the possibility for it...
The Grammy's had a performance of that nature by Sam Smith
And as you noted, it wouldn't be the first time something controversial happened at a halftime show (The Janet Jackson "incident"...that when you watch it back, doesn't look like it was all that accidental lol)
I don't watch football, so my general interest in the superbowl declined after the caliber of funny commercials went down.
But, I suspect it's more controversial now because those kinds of efforts are seen as more "joined at the hip" with a political agenda.
So for instance, Janet Jackson's breast coming out or Ozzy biting a bat, wasn't seen as trying to advance one side of a contentious issue.
The same isn't true for Bad Bunny's affinity for dressing in drag, or his occasional choice to make out with the male backup dancers on stage. (despite claiming to be straight)
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