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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

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  • No

    Votes: 14 87.5%
  • Maybe

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The true Yashar Al (Israel) Of Yah-shua's (Jesus) (Yah YHWH)-(Shua Saved Salvation) time, were those who are yoked to righteous headship. it is those Yashar AL that will be saved through Yah's Shua.

This doesn't change, nor has it changed.

It is forever settled in heaven.

(CLV) Ps 119:89
For the eon, O Yahweh, Your word is stationed in the heavens.

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For generation after generation is Your faithfulness; You have established the earth, and it shall stand.

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They stand today by Your ordinances, For they all are Your servants.

(CLV) Ps 119:92
Unless Your law had been my delectation, Then I would have perished in my humiliation.

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For the eon I shall not forget Your precepts, For by them have You revived me.

(CLV) Ps 119:94
I am Yours; save me, For I have sought after Your precepts.

Do you believe that the Pharisees were the true Yashar Al in Yahshua's time?
The only way to salvation is through faith in Jesus so I guess you are talking about the remnant. The remnant will have faith and accept the Messiah. Until then the body of Christ is God’s people.
 
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I’ve had several people that keep the sabbath argue that the sabbath is a moral commandment, therefore, those that do not worship on Saturday are sinning and consequently living in sin. The poll is self explanatory. If you choose maybe please post why.

Be blessed.
The command to keep the 7th day holy is not the command to worship God on the 7th day. The Israelites worshipped God on every day, which included obeying His command to keep the 7th day holy. In Mark 7:6-9, Jesus criticized Pharisees as being hypocrites for setting aside the commandments of God in order to establish their own traditions, so there is nothing wrong with someone following a tradition of worshipping God on Sunday in addition to obeying His command to keep the 7th day holy, but they should not hypocritically set aside any of God’s commands in order to follow their tradition. Sin is the transgression of God’s law (1 John 3:4) and God’s law commands to keep the 7th day holy (Exodus 20:8-11), so it is a sin to not do that. Morality is in regard to what we ought to do and we ought to be doers of God’s character traits, so all of God’s are inherently moral laws.
 
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The only way to salvation is through faith in Jesus so I guess you are talking about the remnant. The remnant will have faith and accept the Messiah. Until then the body of Christ is God’s people.
Yah told us.

The Prophets told us.

John the Baptist told us.

Yahshua told us.

The message remains the same. Repent! Turn from sin. (Faith) is an abstract word. Emunah (faith) is found throughout Yah's word.

Here is a good study on the word Emunah:

 
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Yes. He is talking about the law overall including the ceremonial law.
No he wasn't. He was speaking of the lawless. Yah doesn't break out a category of ceremonial law. That is an invention of man.

Here are some telling clues:

1. Yah gave the instruction to obey his Torah. His Torah is an expression of his character; and Yah doesn't change.

2.) This passage was delivered before Yahshua came. Yahshua kept the Torah; and so did his disciples; and he told us to do the same.
 
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The Jerusalem Council (Acts 15) ruled that Gentiles do not have to convert to Judaism to become Christians, and Paul's letters are consistent with this ruling.
In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Torah was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom, which included repenting from breaking the Sabbath. Jesus also set a sinless example for us to follow of how to practice Judaism by walking in sinless obedience to the Torah, which included keeping the Sabbath holy, and we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22) and that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way that he walked (1 John 2:6). So Christ spent his ministry teaching his followers how to practice Judaism by word and by example. While the Jerusalem Council ruled that Gentiles do not need to convert to Jews in order to become followers of Christ, they did not rule that Gentiles do not need to covert to Judaism in order to become Christians or that Gentiles can follow Jesus by refusing to follow what he taught. Rather, the Jerusalem Council affirmed that Gentiles heard and believed the Gospel that Jesus taught (Acts 15:6-7).

Romans 14 also applies to this question.
That chapter very notably neglects to mention the Sabbath.
 
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Col 2:16: “Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day - things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.' The Sabbath is gone.
In Colossians 2:16-23, they were keeping God's feasts in obedience to God's commands, they were being judged for doing that by pagans who were promoting humans precepts and traditions, self-made religion, asceticism, and severity to the body, and Paul was encouraging them not to let anyone judge them and precent them from obeying God. Those promoting asceticism and serenity to the body would be judging people for celebrating feasts, not for refraining from doing that.

The Sabbath was the seventh day of the week. It was instituted under the Mosaic law, between the fall of man and Moses. There were no Sabbath laws. There was no Sabbath observance. That came in the Mosaic law. Centuries went by; none of the patriarchs had any kind of Sabbath laws. On the seventh day, after creation, you remember, God rested and God blessed that day.
There are many examples of God's laws being followed without it being recorded when God first gave them such as with Genesis 39:9 where Joseph knew that it was a sin to commit adultery, so the fact that the first recorded instance of a command against adultery wasn't until Sinai does not give justification for assuming that there was no law against adultery prior to that, and the same is true for the Sabbath.

Why? As a day that would always be a memorial to the fact that God had created the universe in six days, so the seventh day was always going to be a reminder of God as our Creator. Every Saturday that comes along - which is the seventh day of the week, Sunday being the first day of the week - every Saturday that comes along is a good day for us to remember, first of all, God is Creator. And we have that in our heritage.
Keeping the Sabbath holy testifies that there is a Creator who created the world in six days, who rested on the 7th, who sanctified it, and who sanctifies us, so those who believe in the truth of these things live in a way that testifies about them by keeping the Sabbath holy rather than a way that bears false witness against them. The Sabbath is holy to God regardless of whether or not we keep it holy, and what is holy to God should not be profaned by man, so we wold still be obligated to keep the Sabbath holy even if God had never commanded anyone to do that.

When the Mosaic law came along, God ordained a Sabbath day for the people to observe and to obey God, and God put some restraints on them to remind them of their sinfulness. So, every Saturday that comes along kind of has a two-fold role; it causes us to remember God as Creator, and to remember how sinful we really are - and truly we are sinful. But the Sabbath is gone.
Nowhere does the Bible state that God gave the Sabbath in order to remind us of how sinful we really are.

It is part of Judaism that has been replaced by the new covenant, and the new covenant has a completely different day. Saturday, reminds us of God as Creator and God as law-giver, and it reminds us of the beauty of God’s creation, the magnificence of His creation, and the sinfulness of our own hearts. But when you come to the new covenant, you have a new kind of observation, not observing God as Creator, not observing God as law-giver, but in the new covenant God is defining Himself as what? Saviour.
Jesus spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey the Mosaic Law by word and by example and the reason why he established the New Covenant was not in order to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching or so that we could continue to have the same lawlessness that caused the New Covenant to be needed in the first place, but rather the New Covenant still involves following the Mosaic Law (Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 36:26-27). Jesus saves us from our sin (Matthew 1:21) and it is by the Mosaic Law that we have knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20), so Jesus graciously teaching us to be a doer of it is intrinsically the way that he is giving us his gift of saving us from not being a doer of it.

So, the new covenant has its own day, a day in which we focus on God as our Saviour, and that's Sunday.
Nowhere does the Bible state this.

In NT, the Church worshipped on Sunday. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that “on the first day of the week we came together to break bread.” Paul also urges the Corinthian believers, “On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income” 1 Cor 16:2 . Since Paul designates this offering as “service” in 2 Cor 9:12, this collection may have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly. Historically, Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.
In Acts 2:46, they broke bread together on every day, so there is nothing about an instance of that happening on the 1st day of the week that means that the New Covenant has its own day or that they were no longer keeping the 7h day holy. It is important to keep in mind that ind that for Jews the day starts in the evening in accordance with Genesis 1 says that there was evening and then there was morning, so the 1st day of the week starts on Saturday night at sundown. Jews have a longstanding tradition of meeting at this times for Havdalah in order to mark the end of the Sabbath and the transition to the work week. Jews also traditionally don't handle money on the Sabbath, so this was also a time that would work well to take an offering. If they had been taking an offering on the Sabbath, then that is what would have indicated that they were transitioning away from keeping it holy, but 1 Corinthians 16:2 is in accordance with it. So Paul did not speak from morning until midnight, but rather he spoke from sundown until midnight and left on Sunday morning to travel. This does not support that they met on Sunday morning, and even if they had, this does not establish that it was the start of a new tradition, and even if it was, it does not establish that they were hypocritically setting aside God's command to keep the 7th day holy in order to establish their own tradition, and even if they were, then this would not establish that we should follow their example of sin.
 
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“But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5‬:‭18‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬
In Romans 7-8, Paul said that the Law of God is good, that he wanted to do good, that he delighted in obeying it, and that he served it with his mind in contrast with the law of sin, which was working within his members to cause him not to do the good that he wanted to do, which was waging war against the law of his mind, which he served with his flesh, which held him captive, and which the Law of the Spirit has free us from. Moreover, Paul contrasted those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to the Law of God. In Galatians 5:16-23, Paul contrasted the desire of the flesh with desires of the Spirit and everything that he listed as works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against the Law of God while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it. The desires of the flesh causing us not to do the good that we want to do is how Paul described his struggle with the law of sin in Romans 7 and the Law of the Spirit has free us from the the law of sin, so that is the law that we are not under when we are led by the Spirit. The Law of God was given by God and the Spirit is God, so it would be contradictory to interpret Galatians 5:18 as referring to the Law of God as if we are not led by God when we are led by God. Similarly, if we are not under the Law of God when we are led by the Spirit, then we would be free to become doers of the desires of the flesh, which is the opposite of what Paul was saying.

That’s exactly right which is why the Mosaic law was never given to the gentile church and what Paul is teaching in both Romans and Galatians. Unbelieving Israel remains under the old covenant and under the old laws. This will continue until the end of the time of the gentiles.
In Matthew 4:15-23, Christ began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Mosaic Law was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel message. Christ also set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law and we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22) and that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way that he walked (1 John 2:6). So Christ spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey the Mosaic Law by word and by example and being a Christian is about being a follower of what he taught, not about refusing to follow him. Neither Romans nor Galatians should be interpreted as speaking against being a follower of Christ. The reason why Jesus established the New Covenant was not in order to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching or so that we could continue to have the same lawlessness that caused the New Covenant to be needed in the first place, but rather the New Covenant still involves following the Mosaic Law (Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 36:26-27). All of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160), so God doesn't have any old laws.
 
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