the "blue wave" last night and the government shutdown

Yttrium · 2025-11-05T18:41:35-0600

Vambram said:
The Democrats have voted in as mayor of NYC a man who proudly proclaims himself as a Socialist. If the USA becomes under the control of the Socialist wing of the Democratic Party, then America's best days will be long gone behind us.

Sure, but it would help do dig up some decent opposition.

comana · 2025-11-05T19:58:20-0600

Vambram said:
The Democrats have voted in as mayor of NYC a man who proudly proclaims himself as a Socialist. If the USA becomes under the control of the Socialist wing of the Democratic Party, then America's best days will be long gone behind us.

It’s easy to argue the best have been long behind us for a while. The middle class is on its way out as cost of living continues to skyrocket while wages trail far behind. The economic course we continue to prop up is clearly failing and people are understandably looking for something else.

Hans Blaster · 2025-11-05T20:10:10-0600

Vambram said:
The Democrats have voted in as mayor of NYC a man who proudly proclaims himself as a Socialist. If the USA becomes under the control of the Socialist wing of the Democratic Party, then America's best days will be long gone behind us.

Maybe NYC will get good sewers

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-05T20:40:04-0600

Vambram said:
The Democrats have voted in as mayor of NYC a man who proudly proclaims himself as a Socialist. If the USA becomes under the control of the Socialist wing of the Democratic Party, then America's best days will be long gone behind us.

Yeah, we should do better and elect philandering con artists like you guys.

MarkSB · 2025-11-05T20:41:34-0600

dogs4thewin said:
I wonder what will happen if the government stays shut down for a couple of weeks after the election as that would likely mean that the idea of the "blue wave" being the Republicans fault and thus voting for democrats in a sense "failed" as people at the state and local levels are not the ones controlling the shut down anyway How would people who voted for the democrats BECAUSE of the shutdown react?

This would particularly be the case if 1-1-26 gets here and the healthcare credits run out in which case the democrats would basically "lose" by default in as far as getting what they wanted while the government was shut down for at LEAST a quarter of the year.

Trump will still be viewed poorly. This economy belongs to him now, and the vote is to send him a message that they do not approve. His tariff "policies" (if you can call them that) are increasing the cost of living, putting a strain on the economy, and leading to job loss.

Most people voted for Trump based on the belief that he would be better at managing the economy than his predecessor. He is not only not delivering on those expectations (big surprise), but making things worse.

MarkSB · 2025-11-05T20:52:32-0600

Vambram said:
Mamdani victory speech draws concern as NYC mayor-elect vows 'no problem too large for government to solve'

Zohran Mamdani indicated during a New York City mayoral race victory speech that there is no matter too big or small for the government to tackle.

www.foxnews.com

Van Jones calls out Zohran Mamdani for 'character switch' during intense victory speech

CNN's Van Jones called out New York City mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani for his "character switch" during an intense victory speech on Tuesday, saying his tone was sharper than usual.

www.foxnews.com

Of course, the tactic here will be to try to put all the attention on Mamdani. Nothing better than a good boogeyman to try to hold up in front of people. I think NPR said it best:

All night, Fox News opted to talk about "Commie" Mamdani instead of taking victory speeches from Spanberger and Sherrill. Both women cut a different political profile: both have military or law enforcement backgrounds and tried to reach out to their opponents' voters. So, a large swath of the country on the right didn't hear a Democrat wishing her opponent well, praising her military service and saying she wants to be governor for everyone in the state.

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/05/nx-s1-5598418/2025-election-prop-50-zohran-mamdani-nyc-virginia-new-jersey

Nithavela · 2025-11-05T20:55:06-0600

I haven't followed this stuff too closely. Have the republicans actually offered the democratic party something for their support? Or has it just been threats?

chevyontheriver · 2025-11-05T21:37:15-0600

Yttrium said:
Sure, but it would help do dig up some decent opposition.

The Democrats couldn’t even find decent opposition. They too are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Fantine · 2025-11-05T21:42:51-0600

Vambram said:
The Democrats have voted in as mayor of NYC a man who proudly proclaims himself as a Socialist. If the USA becomes under the control of the Socialist wing of the Democratic Party, then America's best days will be long gone behind us.

This phrase from Wikipedia's definition of democratic socialism is very interesting. The phrase "democratic socialism" has been used in multiple senses, including a broad sense that refers to all forms of socialism which reject autocracy.
I am surprised that you are so upset at the idea of democratic (e.g. decided upon by the people) socialism but yet you embrace the autocracy which isn't creeping into our government but barreling in headfirst.
And if you call Momdani a "communist" or "socialist," no one should be upset if progressives start using words like "fascism" and "oligarchy." There is nothing about what's going on in DC today that has anything to do with the government envisioned by the Constitution, and perhaps progressives should start using the words they know to be accurate as well.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-05T21:51:13-0600

Nithavela said:
I haven't followed this stuff too closely. Have the republicans actually offered the democratic party something for their support? Or has it just been threats?

Trump, I believe, has refused to negotiate. Speaker Johnson has refused to open the House. I think around the edges there are some little bipartisan talks. Hopefully, the election creates a little urgency in the Republicans to negotiate.

mark46 · 2025-11-05T22:09:44-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Trump, I believe, has refused to negotiate. Speaker Johnson has refused to open the House. I think around the edges there are some little bipartisan talks. Hopefully, the election creates a little urgency in the Republicans to negotiate.

The urgency will more likely be to accept Trump's request to end the filibuster. Otherwise, this blackmail will happen several more times before the 2026 elections.

If the filibuster is removed, Trump will be free to be the leader he wishes to be, with the Democrats having no say at all. Much would get passed before the 2026 elections. And then the people will vote. And then, after the 2026 elections, we will likely have 2 years of almost total gridlock.

Yttrium · 2025-11-05T22:14:59-0600

chevyontheriver said:
The Democrats couldn’t even find decent opposition. They too are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

We do seem to have fallen on hard times for politicians.

On the bright side, the election chaos next year should be very entertaining.

chevyontheriver · 2025-11-05T22:27:44-0600

Yttrium said:
We do seem to have fallen on hard times for politicians.

On the bright side, the election chaos next year should be very entertaining.

Or depressing.

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