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So it’s ok when your side posts them but not ok when I post them? That’s just grand.
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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?
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You can do what you want, the Bible tells us how we test things so we know if it’s coming from God or not. It’s up to us to take this precaution or not. Theres only one side and that counts and thats God’s. He said we are either with Him or by default against Him. Mat 12:30 He said “many” would come in His name to deceive us.Mat 24:5 the apostles told us what would happen after their departure Acts 20:29 Why sticking with what God says is our only Safeguard. The devil deceived 1/3 of the Holy Angels. If it seemed obvious it wouldn’t be so deceitful, but it is obvious if going by what God says plainly Exo31:18 Isa8:20. We are told the devil deceives the whole world which is the majority. God’s people has never been a majority and never will Rev12:17KJV It’s just a matter of whose voice we are going to listen to will reveal the path where we are heading Rom6:16 we are told to worship this God Rev14:7 Exo20:11
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That’s exactly right which is why the Mosaic law was never given to the gentile church and what Paul is teaching in both Romans and Galatians. Unbelieving Israel remains under the old covenant and under the old laws. This will continue until the end of the time of the gentiles.
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The Catholic Church called it the Sabbath of the Jews.
"The Church, on the other hand, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, to the first, made the Third (fourth) Commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord's Day." The Catholic Encyclopedia Topic: Ten Commandments, 2nd paragraph
What is a Jew? The letter "J" didn't exist until the 14th century.
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The letter J was infused into the letter Y, which is the letter Yod in Hebrew, as in YHWH.
Is it an, Atheist, resident of Judea? Is it an Atheist of the tribe of Judah? If so, is it ethnically passed from the father to the son as in scripture; or is it ethnically passed from mother to son, according to Pharisee tradition? Is it someone who practices Rabbinic Judaism? How about the Karaites?
Can being a Jew translate to being Yahudim, which translates to Yah's people?
(CLV) Ex 31:13
Now you, speak to the sons of Israel saying, Surely, My sabbaths shall you keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations to know that I am Yahweh, Who is hallowing you.
As Christianity is a sect of Judaism; are not Christians Yahudim?
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What the Catholic church says does not affect me or change what God says. They claimed they changed God’s Sabbath and its a mark of their authority over the Word of God. Sounds like exactly what we were warned about Dan7:25The Catholic Church called it the Sabbath of the Jews.
"The Church, on the other hand, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, to the first, made the Third (fourth) Commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord's Day." The Catholic Encyclopedia Topic: Ten Commandments, 2nd paragraph
What is a Jew? The letter "J" didn't exist until the 14th century.
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The letter J was infused into the letter Y, which is the letter Yod in Hebrew, as in YHWH.
Is it an, Atheist, resident of Judea? Is it an Atheist of the tribe of Judah? If so, is it ethnically passed from the father to the son as in scripture; or is it ethnically passed from mother to son, according to Pharisee tradition? Is it someone who practices Rabbinic Judaism? How about the Karaites?
Can being a Jew translate to being Yahudim, which translates to Yah's people?
(CLV) Ex 31:13
Now you, speak to the sons of Israel saying, Surely, My sabbaths shall you keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations to know that I am Yahweh, Who is hallowing you.
As Christianity is a sect of Judaism; are not Christians Yahudim?
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What is the Gentile church?
One cannot be simultaneously be unbelieving and Israel (Yashar Al).
The renewed covenant is for those who have the Torah written on their hearts.
What's that?
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God spoke of another Sabbath.“But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.”
Galatians 5:18 NASB2020
Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.bible.com
"There remains then a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;" (Heb 4:8-9)
a rest from our own works to save and in God's work in Jesus Christ which saves (Heb 4:10) to the uttermost (Heb 7:25).
Jesus Christ is our NT Sabbath.
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Joshua spoke of another day to enter into their rest Heb4:8. - their rest of the land in Canaan, Josh1:13 because of disobedience to God Heb4:6 Eze 20:13 , why they wandered in the wilderness 40 years because they disobeyed God. They could have entered much sooner had it not been for their disobedience why another day to enter was spoken of, it does not say the Sabbath is another day or Jesus is now the Sabbath day, one would have to add that in the Text.
Heb 4 is mainly quoting OT Joshua never changed God’s Sabbath, the Ten Commandments was repeated 40 years after God gave it to themm before entering their promised land for them to diligently keep. You can find this is Deut5 and Deut6. David never changed God’s Sabbath, which is what Hebrews 3 and 4 is repeating, man did just as it was predicted Dan7:25 not by God.
Jesus never turned into the 4th commandment- He tells us in His own words the Sabbath is something man does Isa56:2 Exo20:8-11 and we are blessed when we obey. Why we are warned not to follow the same path of disobedience from those who came before us Heb4:11 Eze20:13
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Did a spirit tell you that?
It doesn't pass the Deuteronomy 13 test.
The Ruach was in the beginning.
(CLV) Gn 1:2
As for the earth, it came to be a chaos and vacant, and darkness was over the surface of the abyss. And the spirit of Elohim was vibrating over the surface of the waters.
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I cited my source. What is the real number? Please cite your source.
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I worship every day. I rest on the Shabbat as eternally commanded.
Exodus 31:16 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
16 The people of Isra’el are to keep the Shabbat, to observe Shabbat through all their generations as a perpetual covenant.
Yes please post the exact wording of those who you claim spoke against Yah's eternal word.
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(CLV) Hb 4:9
Consequently a sabbatism is left for the people of God.
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I rest every day in my NT Sabbath rest, from my own works to save and in Jesus' work which saves to the uttermost.
Jesus is my full-time NT Sabbath rest, as God rested full-time from his work (Heb 4:4).
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It doesn’t say another Sabbath rest.
Heb 4:8 For if [a]Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.
It was another day to enter their rest. The rest in this verse has nothing to do with the Sabbath.
This is the rest that was spoken of another day to enter.
katapauó: To cause to rest, to bring to a stop, to quiet
Original Word: καταπαύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: katapauó
Pronunciation: kat-ap-ow'-o
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap-ow'-o)
KJV: cease, (give) rest(-rain)
NASB: rested, given rest, restrained
Word Origin: [from G2596 (κατά - according) and G3973 (παύω - cease)]
1. to settle down
2. (literally) to colonize
It was the rest God gave to Israel of the promise land that Joshua was leading them into their promised rest
Joshua 1:13
“Remember the word which Moses the servant of the Lord commanded you, saying, ‘The Lord your God is giving you rest and is giving you this land.’
Joshua 1:15
until the Lord has given your brethren rest, as He gave you, and they also have taken possession of the land which the Lord your God is giving them. Then you shall return to the land of your possession and enjoy it, which Moses the Lord’s servant gave you on this side of the Jordan toward the sunrise.”
They would have entered into their rest of the land of Canaan a lot earlier had it not been for their disobedience during the trial of the wilderness Heb4:6 Psa 95:7-13 which we are told what they violated Eze20:13 sadly what is being taught is to follow their same path of disobedience this passage is warning us not to Heb4:11
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I know people who are incapacitated, who live on government assistance; but most people have to work.
(CLV) 2Th 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave this charge to you: that "If anyone is not willing to work, neither let him eat."
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The one grafted into the tree (Rom. 11).
Israel in general rejected Jesus so, yes, they are unbelieving. I understand where you are coming from but there is a distinction.
The new covenant of blood is for the church. The promises to Israel of a better covenant remain until fulfilled.
Luke 21:24
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Wiki is not a reliable source. Secondly counting each non denom churches as a denomination is problematic at best.
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