You said you wouldn't express it the way they do. That's fine, but they're free to express it the way they do, yes?
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Tucker Carlson’s interview with far-right antisemite Nick Fuentes divides conservatives over support for Israel
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The Movement: Mike Pence sounds off on Tucker Carlson, Heritage, Steve Bannon, RFK
Pence on Monday announced a book coming next year called “What Conservatives Believe: Rediscovering the Conservative Conscience.” A release bills the book as the 21st-Century version of Barry Goldwater’s foundational “Conscience of a Conservative.”Republicans, he said, are “embracing more isolationist views, particularly with regard to Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion in Ukraine.”
“There are voices that we’ve seen just in recent days, questioning, in no uncertain terms, American’s support for Israel,” Pence said. “We’ve seen our party walking away from a commitment to free market economics, embracing broad based tariffs — which are taxes — against friend and foe alike. We’ve seen an administration embracing the state ownership of business. We’ve seen members of Congress promoting price controls, and then going all the way back to the Republican platform in 2024 — the marginalizing of the right to life, the appointment of a pro-abortion secretary of [Health and Human Services] and an effort in the party to simply relegate the question of abortion to be a state-only issue.”
“But I particularly have been frustrated to see [Tucker Carlson's] consistent opposition to U.S. support for Israel. When Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon came out against the use of military force to take down the Iranian nuclear program, I actually think they lost some footing with the president and with the movement, because President Trump took the bold and courageous step of using military forces to strike the Iranian nuclear capability.”
“When Heritage came out in favor of the appointment of a pro-abortion Secretary of HHS” — referring to Health and Human Service Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. — “it just struck me that the conservative movement would do well with a reminder of what we believe.”
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Ben Shapiro Devotes Entire Show to Scorching Takedown of ‘Coward’ Tucker Carlson and ‘Twisted’ Nick Fuentes
“Hey folks, I want to do something different on today’s show. We’re going to cover one topic in depth. That topic is, I think, the most important thing happening in the country. It was a hot topic last week, but I wanted to take some time to really gather my thoughts and speak on it in coherent fashion, wholistic fashion. That topic is the fragmentation of the political right,” began Shapiro. “That fragmentation is being caused purposefully by a splinter faction of people led by a young man named Nick Fuentes. They call themselves the Groypers. They are white supremacists. They hate women, Jews, Hindus, many types of Christians, brown people of a wide variety of backgrounds, Blacks, America’s foreign policy, and America’s constitution. They admire Hitler and Stalin. And that splinter faction is now being facilitated and normalized within the mainstream Republican Party. The main agent in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend. And Tucker Carlson last week was aided, abetted, celebrated for normalizing Nazism within the Republican Party by the mainstay organization of the traditional right, the Heritage Foundation.”
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Is this a direct quote by Shapiro?
Because I've heard him get accused of hating each of the groups that are bolded.
Does he actually have an issue with the bulk of what Tucker's said in various interviews pertaining to "culture problems" in certain communities, or is he only upset because the most recent one touched on his own "in-group"?
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My problem with Carlson and Fuentes is that they are bad actors, and because I am a conservative it is frustrating to see bad actors who are also conservatives. And I do not believe that Tucker is interested in free speech. He platformed Fuentes to pay obeisance to the significant portion of his base that sympathizes with Fuentes. If Tucker was some sort of free speech promoter who hosts views from every angle and party then it would be different. If Tucker favored free speech then his interviews would be interviews that explored a person's ideas in their totality and in fairness, regardless of where they come from. That's not Tucker. Not by a long shot. One can very easily object to the way that Tucker cozies up to characters like Putin, Tate, or Fuentes without objecting to anyone's right to free speech.
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They are far apart. The Left's hate is emotional, irrational and ignorant, and I mean by the dictionary definition of "ignorant". They don't know what they're talking about, or if they do, they're dishonest about. I could go into details about that.
I'm no Nick expert but from what I've heard from him and other conservatives is they don't hate Israel, they just don't care about Israel. They don't like how much our taxpayers pay them, and they don't care for Israel's meddling in our politics. I have some empathy with that. The only basis I've ever heard for supporting Israel so strongly is, "it's the only democracy in the Middle East". But so what? Has them being a democracy ever affected anything positively over there? The U.S. tried implementing democracy in Iraq. Didn't work.
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I'll make this simple for you: Nick Fuentes hates Jews. Period. He does not shy from that position.
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Do you have a link to support that? I do recall when he was playing GTA in New York and by coincidence a Jewish NPC appeared as a pedestrian and Nick kept trying to run him over as a joke, all while laughing about it. Dark humor I suppose. But if he does have hate that's between him and God.
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Not that I can post here. Just do a video search on fuentes + jews and you'll get the evidence you need. (Or don't and just trust me. You don't really want to watch his rants. [Or maybe you should, just to see how vile he is.])
Other than his speech inside restricted grounds at the Capitol on Jan 6th, 2021, everything I have seen from Fuentes is from his show on his set. There is plenty of vile material that illustrates the point. No need to infer from actions in video games.
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Fortunately many Republicans on X are slamming and calling out Tucker for platforming this weasel. They include Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dinesh D'Souza, and many more. And the President of Heritage Foundation who defended Tucker for giving him a soft ball interview has resigned. So there's hope there.
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I've provided the info you need. I don't want to curate a list and watch that much Nick the (self-proclaimed) Nazi.
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That's good. The GOPers aren't going to take my word on Tucker/Fuentes.
A Cuban Canadian, a Jewish American, and an Indian American. It's nice that they react, but it does illustrate the moral courage of conservative "leaders" seem largely limited to the outrages that directly affect them. (Or in this case, they know Fuentes says vile things that directly apply to them.)
Good. I was not aware of that.
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You could check out the "right wing watch" site.
You could search for fuentes and antisemitism and get a lot of links (its his main thing, being a Hitler fan, as he is).
One non-video link that search turns up is:
Who is Nick Fuentes and Why Is His Antisemitism Dangerous for America?
What you need to know about Nicholas “Nick” J. Fuentes, his America First movement, his relationship with Alex Jones, “the Groypers,” Milo Yiannopoulos, and more.
www.ajc.org
There are many more if you care to look.
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