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prodromos · Wednesday at 1:24 PM

Apple Sky said:
1 John 4:5-6
They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. / We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.

Since you claim things that contradict each other, it is clear who does not have the spirit of truth.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 1:27 PM

prodromos said:
You just said the Air NZ flight hit the firmament (despite the crash site being just off the coast of Antarctica),

Yes, but this was only my opinion.

prodromos said:
then moments later you claim Admiral Byrd flew unimpeded way beyond the coast of Antarctica.

This is what Byrd claims.

Hentenza · Wednesday at 1:29 PM

Apple Sky said:
I thought Moses spoke directly to God.

Yes but God did not dictate the Torah to him. Moses wrote it in his own writing style and using imagery that he understood.

prodromos · Wednesday at 1:35 PM

Apple Sky said:
Yes, but this was only my opinion.

Your opinion is proven false. The truth is not in you.

Apple Sky said:
This is what Byrd claims.

It isn't. Its a misinterpretation of his observations.

HantsUK · Wednesday at 1:44 PM

Herman Hedning said:
Case closed. Next!

If only!

But I fear this is optimistic.

Hentenza · Wednesday at 1:45 PM

Apple Sky said:
Yes, but this was only my opinion.

This is what Byrd claims.

Here is a map of all of the permanent research stations that are all over Antartica. Obviously airplanes fly all the way across Antarctica because the bases need to be restocked and scientists moved in and out.

https://www.researchgate.net/profil...bases-and-camps-Permanent-bases-Casey-and.png

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 1:56 PM

Strong in Him said:
There is a poem about the Charge of the Light brigade, for example, and Wilfred Owen wrote war poetry. There can be truth in, or behind, poetry. But that doesn't mean that all the words used are literal or to be taken literally.

Of course not, I know this.

I know that God didn't mean literal doors or there is a literally a tent in the sky for the sun, we know this as the sun is set in the firmament.
I know that the sea bursting from a womb doesn't represent a literal womb.
I know that Jesus isn't a door or a lamb.

Do you think I'm stupid or what ? And yes we know what @prodromos answer would be

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 2:08 PM

Hentenza said:
Here is a map of all of the permanent research stations that are all over Antartica. Obviously airplanes fly all the way across Antarctica because the bases need to be restocked and scientists moved in and out.

Yes & mostly helicopters & none of these bases are very far in plus they have coincidental names to them such as 'Dome' & Byrd.

Hentenza · Wednesday at 2:15 PM

Apple Sky said:
Yes & mostly helicopters & none of these bases are very far in plus they have coincidental names to them such as 'Dome' & Byrd.

What? These bases are from different countries and the distances are much further than what a helicopter could fly. In addition, a properly configured plane can carry a much larger payload than helicopters. Also the names mean absolutely nothing but simply the names they chose.

ETA: Forgot to add that Antartica has an area of over 5,400,000 sq. miles which is larger than the US (3,800,000 sq.mi.)

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 2:23 PM

Apple Sky said:
Of course not, I know this.

I know that God didn't mean literal doors or there is a literally a tent in the sky for the sun, we know this as the sun is set in the firmament.
I know that the sea bursting from a womb doesn't represent a literal womb.
I know that Jesus isn't a door or a lamb.

Well then why do you insist that some parts of Scripture ARE literal, when they are also poetic?
The literal dome of Genesis 1, for example, which is made of solid material - all because there is a verse somewhere which says it is LIKE molten glass?

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 11:55 PM

Hentenza said:
What? These bases are from different countries and the distances are much further than what a helicopter could fly.

Maybe a couple

Apple Sky · 2025-10-30T00:20:05-0500

Strong in Him said:
The literal dome of Genesis 1, for example, which is made of solid material - all because there is a verse somewhere which says it is LIKE molten glass?

That's b/c it is, how do you think rainbows or sun dogs appear ?

@ 9:10

https://rumble.com/v70sv0e-flat-earth-dome-explained-100-and-the-entrance-to-agartha.html

prodromos · 2025-10-30T00:54:55-0500

Apple Sky said:
Do you think I'm stupid or what ? And yes we know what @prodromos answer would be

That the truth is not in you?

Apple Sky · 2025-10-30T01:43:35-0500

prodromos said:
That the truth is not in you?

So I'm lying am I ? Where have I lied ?

Strong in Him · 2025-10-30T02:29:11-0500

Apple Sky said:
That's b/c it is,

You haven't answered the question.
Why are some, poetic, verses of Scripture literal but others remain poetry or allegory?

If something is like molten glass it doesn't mean it IS molten glass.

Apple Sky · 2025-10-30T02:50:45-0500

Strong in Him said:
You haven't answered the question.
Why are some, poetic, verses of Scripture literal but others remain poetry or allegory?

You haven't answered mine.
How do you think rainbows or sun dogs appear ?

Strong in Him · 2025-10-30T02:53:38-0500

Apple Sky said:
You haven't answered mine.
How do you think rainbows or sun dogs appear ?

I don't know what a sun dog is.
A rainbow appears when there is sun and rain together. HOW, I don't know; I told you, I am not a scientist.

Bet you can't answer my question.

Apple Sky · 2025-10-30T03:15:58-0500

Strong in Him said:
Why are some, poetic, verses of Scripture literal but others remain poetry or allegory?

History/Narrative: These sections (e.g., Genesis, Exodus, the Gospels) read like factual accounts and are meant to be taken as literal history.
Poetry/Wisdom Literature: Books like Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes use vivid imagery, figures of speech (metaphor, simile, personification), and emotional language to convey literal truths in a non-literal way. For instance, a reference to God being a "rock" is a metaphor for his steadfastness, not a literal geological description.
Prophecy/Apocalyptic: These books (e.g., Daniel, Revelation) often use extensive symbolism and visions, the meanings of which are sometimes explained within the text itself or elsewhere in Scripture.
Parables: These are longer allegories designed to teach a moral or spiritual lesson, often introduced with phrases like "A certain man had two sons

Strong in Him · 2025-10-30T03:40:06-0500

Apple Sky said:
History/Narrative: These sections (e.g., Genesis, Exodus, the Gospels) read like factual accounts and are meant to be taken as literal history.

I don't have time to answer this now but Genesis is history, though some of it is still written as poetry. The creation accounts are not literal, scientific documents.
Job is wisdom literature, yet chapters 38-41 are not descriptions of how God created.

Nowhere did God say; "I want you to take dictation and write down all the scientific details of how I created the universe."
Did anyone ever tell you the Bible is not a scientific book?

David Lamb · 2025-10-30T03:48:51-0500

Apple Sky said:
That's because it is.

Rob skiba said;

Where does the bible say that the firmament is a solid dome? The word translated "firmament" (I'm repeating myself) does not have to mean a solid dome, as it also means an expanse. I have seen you quote verses from Ezekiel such as these:

“22 The likeness of the firmament above the heads of the living creatures was like the color of an awesome crystal, stretched out over their heads. 23 And under the firmament their wings spread out straight, one toward another. Each one had two which covered one side, and each one had two which covered the other side of the body.” (Eze 1:22-23 NKJV)

You reason that crystal is hard, solid, so the firmament must be too. But verse 22 mentions crystal to describe the colour of the firmament, not its solidity or otherwise. I have looked up all the reference in the bible to "firmament" and not one mentions that it is either solid, or a dome.

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