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Apple Sky · Wednesday at 7:45 AM

Strong in Him said:
The only way that you can say that it is, is to call everyone else a liar and claim the evidence is all fake.
That means nothing, except that you don't understand, and refuse to believe the evidence, and that you think everyone else is a liar. Including the born again Christian astronaut who you once believed.

1 John 4:5-6
They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. / We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.

Hentenza · Wednesday at 7:54 AM

Apple Sky said:
1 John 4:5-6
They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. / We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.

The problem with this approach is that now you have made yourself the judge of the
Christian heart. This is not biblically sound.

You know, maybe it is you who speak from the world perspective by accepting the lies of conspiracy theorists and misusing scripture to reduce God’s creation.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 8:35 AM

Hentenza said:
You know, maybe it is you who speak from the world perspective by accepting the lies of conspiracy theorists and misusing scripture to reduce God’s creation.

I only accept the words of conspiracy theorists (truth seekers) sometimes but I accept the word of God all of the time & I will never misuse Scripture to reduce God's creation, in fact I enhance it.

Hentenza · Wednesday at 8:38 AM

Apple Sky said:
I only accept the words of conspiracy theorists (truth seekers) sometimes but I accept the word of God all of the time & I will never misuse Scripture to reduce God's creation, in fact I enhance it.

I think you use conspiracy theorists to define your understanding of scriptures. Am I wrong?

David Lamb · Wednesday at 8:39 AM

Apple Sky said:
The firmament is like

But who does ?

A don't understand what "The firmament is like" has to do with my post. As to who does fly over the Antarctic, I assume all the people who buy tickets to do so, otherwise they are wasting their money.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 8:46 AM

Apple Sky said:
And look what happens when flights do.

The trustworthiness of the video you posted is cast into doubt for me by the words, "The South Pole, a.k.a. Antarctica." That is nonsense. The South Pole is one point on the continent of Antarctica, so to say that the South Pole is just another name for Antarctica is just plain wrong.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 9:08 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes - But how many of them actually fly right over Antarctica & don't forget that Antarctica is supposed to be 13.66 million km.

Commercial flights do not fly over Antarctica because of a combination of safety regulations and the continent's harsh, remote environment. ETOPS regulations require aircraft to stay within a certain range of an emergency landing airport, which Antarctica lacks,

What do you mean, saying that Antarctica is supposed to be 13.66 million km? Even its coastline is only 17.968 kilometres long, so just under 18 thousand kilometres, not even one million, let alone 13.66 million km.

Then you say, "Commercial flights do not fly over Antarctica because of a combination of safety regulations and the continent's harsh, remote environment." Yet I and others have posted information about flights over the Antarctic by well-known airline QANTAS. If the airline had a name that most people have never heard of, then there might be room for saying, "Perhaps they don't really do what they say." Or, "How can they possibly do that in view of the dangers?" But QANTAS is sufficiently well-known that it would be disaster for them if they were found to be deliberately selling tickets for dangerous flights.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 9:11 AM

Hentenza said:
I think you use conspiracy theorists to define your understanding of scriptures. Am I wrong?

No - I understood Scripture first, it was the reading of Genesis 1 and other verses that pulled me into the flat earth & to seek out the truth plus I did have a friend who drew out a picture of the flat earth & told me that earth was shaped like a Mexicon hat so I looked it up and wo behold I found this image.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 9:14 AM

Apple Sky said:
By you no doubt.

Strong in Him is not a moderator. She is no more able to close threads than you or I are. I seem to remember that this has been covered several days ago.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 9:15 AM

David Lamb said:
What do you mean, saying that Antarctica is supposed to be 13.66 million km?

Sorry my mistake.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 9:17 AM

Apple Sky said:
1 John 4:5-6
They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. / We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.

But the Christians mentioned by Strong in Him are not of the world or speaking from the world's perspective.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 9:20 AM

Apple Sky said:
No - I understood Scripture first, it was the reading of Genesis 1 and other verses that pulled me into the flat earth & to seek out the truth plus I did have a friend who drew out a picture of the flat earth & told me that earth was shaped like a Mexicon hat so I looked it up and wo behold I found this image.

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So now after many posts where you have stated your belief in the earth being a flat disc, are you now saying you believe it to be a flat square? Perhaps in a few month's time you will change your mind again and you will say it is an oval, or some other shape.

Hentenza · Wednesday at 9:21 AM

Apple Sky said:
No - I understood Scripture first, it was the reading of Genesis 1 and other verses that pulled me into the flat earth & to seek out the truth plus I did have a friend who drew out a picture of the flat earth & told me that earth was shaped like a Mexicon hat so I looked it up and wo behold I found this image.

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Almost the whole of Christian exegesis of the verses that you claim defend a flat earth do not teach a flat earth. You are directly going against what it taught and believed.
Very few, if any, official churches or major Christian denominations believe in a flat Earth. This belief is a fringe viewpoint held by a small number of individuals, including some Christian fundamentalists, rather than by any organized church. So your belief is not what it taught in Christianity so it falls into the false teaching realm.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 9:31 AM

David Lamb said:
But QANTAS is sufficiently well-known that it would be disaster for them if they were found to be deliberately selling tickets for dangerous flights.

Qantas airlines will fly you over Drakes passage to the outer edges of Antarctica but will not fly directly over Antarctica b/c of reasons explained.

Interestingly enough;

There are no traditional hotels in Antarctica due to international treaties that ban permanent tourist structures. Instead, visitors stay on cruise ships, which function as "floating hotels," or at a limited number of luxury, temporary camps and lodges operated by private companies.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 9:33 AM

David Lamb said:
So now after many posts where you have stated your belief in the earth being a flat disc, are you now saying you believe it to be a flat square?

I didn't say that did I ?

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 9:35 AM

Apple Sky said:
Not flying all the way over Antarctica they don't.

Then why did you say you'd rather not be on one of those flights - i.e the flights that went right over Antarctica?

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 9:36 AM

Hentenza said:
Christian fundamentalists, rather than by any organized church. So your belief is not what it taught in Christianity so it falls into the false teaching realm.

Well it shouldn't - As Scriptures do tell the truth.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 9:41 AM

Strong in Him said:
Then why did you say you'd rather not be on one of those flights - i.e the flights that went right over Antarctica?

What I meant was if any air line flew over Antarctica I'd rather not be on it given the dangers.

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 9:41 AM

Apple Sky said:
1 John 4:5-6
They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. / We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.

That verse is totally irrelevant to the matter at hand.
You either can't get it into your head, or refuse to believe, that a) the shape of the earth has nothing to do with salvation, or even the Christian faith. B) that all of us here who accept the facts and know the earth is a globe also believe in God and accept Genesis 1. And don't say, "you can't do" - we do.
Therefore in this matter, there is no "of God" or "of the devil".

David Lamb · Wednesday at 9:42 AM

Apple Sky said:
Qantas airlines will fly you over Drakes passage to the outer edges of Antarctica but will not fly directly over Antarctica b/c of reasons explained.

Interestingly enough;

There are no traditional hotels in Antarctica due to international treaties that ban permanent tourist structures. Instead, visitors stay on cruise ships, which function as "floating hotels," or at a limited number of luxury, temporary camps and lodges operated by private companies.

That is not so. The QANTAS brochure says: "Aboard a cruise ship you would only touch the edge of the coast. Aboard our privately-chartered plane, you would soar over a continent that escapes the boundaries of perception." As for hotels, there is no need, they are round trips leaving from Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth. Passengers remain on the aeroplane.

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