WHAT IS ROMAN 6:14 SAYING TO ALL. !!

Being under the laws of the rabbis did not bring about the Kingdom, it was made available to us by the grace of God, for simply following His will, not our own. His will is his Kingdom. You are right to the extent that following His will does not require an institutional church governed by man, but is simply a way of life that runs contrary to the traditional self-serving will of mankind.

Dan Perez said:

# 1 FOR // GAR , is a CONJUNCATION

# 2 SIN // HAMARTIA. , in. the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 3 SHALL // KYRIOUO. , in. the FUTURE TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE. , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the SINGULAR

# 4. NOT //. OU. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and NOT means NEVER

# 5. HAVE DOMINION. OVER // KYRIEUOV , in c the FUTURE TENSE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , means it can not , in the SINGULAR

# 6 YOU. // HYMON , is a POERSONAL POSSESSEITIVE PRONOUN. in the GENITIVE CASE , in the PLURAL

# 7. FOR // GAR , is a CONJUNCATION

# 8 YE ARE // ESTE. , is in. the PRESENT TENSE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD . in. the PLURAL

# 9 NOT // OU . is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , meaning Never ever

# 10 UNDER. // HYPO , is a PREPOSITION

# 11 THE LAW // NOMOS. , means the LAW of Moses. , in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR.

# 12 BUT. // ALLA is a CONJUNCATION

# 13 UNDER // HYPO. is a PREPOSTION

# 14 GRACE. // CHARIS is in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR


# A. And since we are NOT. under the Law of Moses.

# B WE do not NEED a Priest

# C. We do not NEED an ALTER

# D WE do not NEED. and LAMB. for a Sacrifice

# E. WE do Not NEED to CONFESS SINS , do it. ONLY to GOD

# F No need to. to make the SIGN. of a CROSS

# G. And you can eat MEAT on. any DAY you want

# H. No worrys about the KEEPING the Sabbath

# I And for all other questions BELIEVE the KJV. BIBLE

dan p

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In Romans 7-8:2, Paul said that the Law of God is good, that he wanted to do good, that he delighted in obeying it, and that he served it with his mind in contrast with the the law of sin, which was working within his members in order to cause him not to do the good that he wanted to do, which was waging war against the law of his mind, which he served with his flesh, which was holding him captive, and which the Law of the Spirit has freed us from. In Romans 8:3-7, Paul contrasted those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to the Law of God. The Law of God leads us to do what is holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12) while the law of sin leads us in the opposite direction by stirring up sinful passions in order to bear fruit unto death (Romans 7:5). So verses that refer to something that would be absurd for Paul to delight in such as delighting in sin having dominion over him should not be interpreted as referring to the Law of God while verses that refer to a law that is sinful, that causes sin to increase, or that hinders us from obeying the Law of God should be interpreted as referring to the law of sin, such as Romans 5:20, Romans 6:14, Galatians 2:19, Galatians 5:16-18, and 1 Corinthians 15:56.

In Romans 6:14, Paul described the law that we are not under as being a law where sin had dominion over him, which does not describe the Law of God, but rather that is the role of the law of sin. In Romans 6:15, being under grace does not mean that we are permitted to sin, and in Romans 7:7, the Law of God is not sinful but how we know what sin is, so we are still under. Moreover, everything else in Romans 6 speaks in favor of obedience to the Law of God and against sin, so you have not just justification for interpreting Romans 6:14 as saying that we are free to do what the Law of God reveals to be sin.

The Law of God is simply saying the Will of the FATHER.

timothyu said:

The Law of God is simply saying the Will of the FATHER.

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The Father has straightforwardly made His will known through His law (Psalms 40:8).

Dan Perez said:

And is Psa 40:8 speaking to the BODY of CHRIST OR is it SPEAKING to Israel. ??

As Israel has been set aside in Acts 28:25-28. and in Isa 1-13 !!

YES or. NO ??

dan p

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It's not speaking to anyone in particular, but rather it is simply equating delighting in doing the will of God with obeying His commands. Instructions for how to be a doer of God's character traits can't be set aside without first setting God aside.

Dan Perez said:

AND if anyone write from ROMANS through. PHILEMON. it. is speaking to the BODY of CHRIST and. the rest is speaking to Israel is my position !!

And do you agree OR disagree ??

And you will disagree , right ??
dan p

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Paul’s letters were speaking to the people that they were addressed to in order to answer questions that they were having or in order to resolve situations that they were dealing with. Some of things that he said were very context specific while other things that he said were true regardless of who he was speaking to.

Soyeong said:

It's not speaking to anyone in particular, but rather it is simply equating delighting in doing the will of God with obeying His commands. Instructions for how to be a doer of God's character traits can't be set aside without first setting God aside.

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With offering the body.

I left a certain order below with some separations, but I can explain every detail I did post a whole detailed thread on this.



Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.


Psalm 40:6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O Lord, thou knowest.
10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.





Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Dan Perez said:

Since John wrote this book. , this means. John was talking to Jews and NOT to GENTILES is what it means !!

And in. James 1:1 here he wrote to the 12 tribes SCATTERED ABROAD. and we see that the HOLY SPIRIT. had men

write to different people to. Jews and GENTILES !!

What say you. ??

dan p

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John addressed the book of John to the world, you see that at the start, just like you mention James and where he addresses wo he is writing to at the start, right ?

For anyone reading, and this is fairly straight forward, but just in case, i highlighted some, and I left separate other below..


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; AND THE LIFE WS THE LIGHT OF MEN.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

John 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

John 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.