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Yahweh, Yeshua - Who are they?

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Eh I remember reading ages ago of how Jesus' name is in the OT as Jesus. I never use 'yeshua' or 'yahweh' when referring to God, because I have only read a lot of hype and no proof of those names. TBH You can't even make YHVH using paleo hebrew, it's nonsense
 
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SNES said:
Eh I remember reading ages ago of how Jesus' name is in the OT as Jesus. I never use 'yeshua' or 'yahweh' when referring to God, because I have only read a lot of hype and no proof of those names. TBH You can't even make YHVH using paleo hebrew, it's nonsense
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Behold the tetragrammaton (YHVH) in Paleo-Hebrew Aramaic and Modern Hebrew
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ViaCrucis said:
I'm gathering that Eliyahu fancies himself the return of Elijah, a prophet in this modern time, to show us the error of our ways and return us to God. As such, facts are meaningless.

For example, the Greek text is meaningless, because--from what I've gathered--it's a Roman Catholic invention. Eliyahu, however, knows better because God specifically told him so.

Etc.

We're dealing with someone who clearly has far worse issues going on than simple ignorance of language and linguistics.

-CryptoLutheran
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Oh, My bad. I forgot the whole "Everybody in the whole world forgot everything Jesus ever said the second he ascended to heaven, so he left his Church in utter ignorance and unbelief for 2000 years"-thing.
 
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SNES said:
Eh I remember reading ages ago of how Jesus' name is in the OT as Jesus. I never use 'yeshua' or 'yahweh' when referring to God, because I have only read a lot of hype and no proof of those names. TBH You can't even make YHVH using paleo hebrew, it's nonsense
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Yahweh still cares for us, not willing that any should perish, but come with his grace on his terms, even though we have been disobedient. And it is obedient to call on his name.
 
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progmonk said:
Behold the tetragrammaton (YHVH) in Paleo-Hebrew Aramaic and Modern Hebrew
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First of all, there aren't certain letters in the paleo hebrew like "w" or "v". V is used in w sometimes, but you have to follow the grammar rules for that. The ones that are used against the name jesus for example, if you use the same rules they use against the "j"; you get the tentagrammaton IHVH.
Next what you have shown didnt even show the S like figure is; which would be the second 'letter'. IHSH is what it should be, not yhvh
This would be "IEHSHU." when we add the final "s" to add masculinity the name would be "IEHSHUS." Since the rule of grammer is that an "I" followed by a vowel has the "J" sound we arrive correctly at "JEHSHUS."
 
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SNES said:
First of all, there aren't certain letters in the paleo hebrew like "w" or "v". V is used in w sometimes, but you have to follow the grammar rules for that. The ones that are used against the name jesus for example, if you use the same rules they use against the "j"; you get the tentagrammaton IHVH.
Next what you have shown didnt even show the S like figure is; which would be the second 'letter'. IHSH is what it should be, not yhvh
This would be "IEHSHU." when we add the final "s" to add masculinity the name would be "IEHSHUS." Since the rule of grammer is that an "I" followed by a vowel has the "J" sound we arrive correctly at "JEHSHUS."
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Jesus is the Anglicanization of the Latin Iesus, which is the Latinization of the Greek Ἰησοῦς, which is the Hellenization of ישוע and יְהוֹשֻׁעַ.

The Tetragrammaton is יהוה‎.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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ViaCrucis said:
Jesus is the Anglicanization of the Latin Iesus, which is the Latinization of the Greek Ἰησοῦς, which is the Hellenization of ישוע and יְהוֹשֻׁעַ.

The Tetragrammaton is יהוה‎.

-CryptoLutheran
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Names have different spellings and different pronunciations in different languages, as it is the case with the names of Yahweh and of Jesus. However it is done the different forms of the names would still necessarily be recognizable, and the calling on him with knowledge of who it is will be acknowledged by him. That is important, and so it is that he knows what is in our hearts.

English is language which borrows much from others. With that we have a few forms of the same name, that is still okay.
 
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Joshua and Jesus are from the same name originally, Jesus being from the short name. In the original manuscripts of the new testament it is still written the same... Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς). Translations could be consistent, but instead they have the name as Jesus for our Lord Christ and the same name as Joshua in other cases. If they are Joshua we could call the Lord by the name Joshua.

The ancient form of the name of God kept in Greek writing originally shows pronunciation very close to it being "Yahweh". It may have been, while varying a little bit, in the past, Iaooeh, or something similar, but it is not so different from this pronunciation now with YHWH.
 
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