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Question for those who belong to churches that believe in closed communion.

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Mental exercise.

“If” Jesus came back to dwell among us humans again in the form of a man. Would He be able to have communion in your church?
Good question. I am in an open communion church but my guess is that closed communions need the person to make some sort of vow to the leadershiip of the church not merely a claim to believe foundational Christian doctrine.
 
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Mental exercise.

“If” Jesus came back to dwell among us humans again in the form of a man. Would He be able to have communion in your church?
Why would He want to? That is His own body and blood, and He does not need those redeeming properties.:angel:
I understand your question, though. I think many churches allow it. I know in my childhood church (Episcopal), we had to go through the confirmation process before we could receive. Some read the 1 Corinthians warning about taking the body and the bread "unworthily" as a danger.
 
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Why would He want to? That is His own body and blood, and He does not need those redeeming properties.:angel:
This, He does not need to follow His own instruction to do this thing in remembrance of Himself.

No church should end up providing the Lord to the Lord, and if He was again on earth and incarnate, we would not need it either. We were told to do it in remembrance, when He knew what was about to happen.
 
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Why would He want to? That is His own body and blood, and He does not need those redeeming properties.:angel:
I understand your question, though. I think many churches allow it. I know in my childhood church (Episcopal), we had to go through the confirmation process before we could receive. Some read the 1 Corinthians warning about taking the body and the bread "unworthily" as a danger.
His ministry only lasted 3 years. Prior to that He was known for a being a good teacher at the temple. The question I asked in the OP would relate to a time similar when no one knew Him as the Son of God. Back then He taught at the temple because He was a Jew but now that it is the time of the gentiles He would want to go to the gentile church. So would your church allow Him to have communion?
 
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Mental exercise.

“If” Jesus came back to dwell among us humans again in the form of a man. Would He be able to have communion in your church?
"If you throw out the entire Christian understanding of the Incarnation, Eucharist, and eschatology, does your church's practice still make sense?"
 
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The question I asked in the OP would relate to a time similar when no one knew Him as the Son of God.
We are not in a time when no one knows Him as God. Father, Son and Holy Ghost = God.

The definition of Christian from CF - CF Statement of Faith -

"Faith groups and individuals that deny the full, eternal deity of Jesus Christ or His incarnation whereby He, as God, took on human flesh (becoming fully God and fully man in one person), are considered non-Christians at CF. Posts that deny the full, eternal deity of Jesus Christ or His incarnation are considered non-Christian theology and are not allowed in "Christians Only" forums. Discussions in all "Christians Only" forums must be in alignment with Trinitarian beliefs."
 
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We are not in a time when no one knows Him as God. Father, Son and Holy Ghost = God.

The definition of Christian from CF - CF Statement of Faith -

"Faith groups and individuals that deny the full, eternal deity of Jesus Christ or His incarnation whereby He, as God, took on human flesh (becoming fully God and fully man in one person), are considered non-Christians at CF. Posts that deny the full, eternal deity of Jesus Christ or His incarnation are considered non-Christian theology and are not allowed in "Christians Only" forums. Discussions in all "Christians Only" forums must be in alignment with Trinitarian beliefs."
"If you throw out the entire Christian understanding of the Incarnation, Eucharist, and eschatology, does your church's practice still make sense?"
In other words, no, your church would not allow Him to have communion.
 
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In other words, no, your church would not allow Him to have communion.
Your concept of "Him" in this hypothetical is not consistent with the Christian understanding of our Lord, and your concept of "communion" is limited to a modern evangelical understanding of the term, so I'm not sure what you want here. I'm trying to assume some level of good faith in your question, even if that might be naive of me.
 
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The Catholic Church is one of those churches which believe in closed communion.

The reasons are succintly given in the following explanation.

Question:​

How would I explain to a non-Catholic that her not being allowed to receive the Eucharist is not the Church being exclusive?

Answer:​

There are two main reasons non-Catholics cannot receive communion at a Catholic Mass:
  1. The Eucharist is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ. We must be properly prepared to receive it (1 Cor. 11:26-29). A non-Catholic who does not believe in the Real Presence would not be properly prepared to receive the Eucharist.
  2. Notice the word communion. You are asking why those who are not in communion with the Church cannot receive Communion. The word implies a unity and a oneness. Because Catholics believe that the celebration of the Eucharist is a sign of the reality of the oneness of faith, life, and worship, members of faith communities with whom we are not yet fully united are not admitted to Holy Communion.
Asking if Jesus would be admitted to His own table is ridiculous. He is IN the bread and wine on the altar, after the priest calls upon the Holy Spirit to make these gifts holy.

I suppose it does raise one side track question - did He partake of the bread and wine after He distributed it to His disciples in the upper room, or did they drink and eat, and not Him?
 
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In other words, no, your church would not allow Him to have communion.
How have you managed to understand the posts to which you are replying like that?

We are not in a time when people do not know Jesus as God, people know already....it is in the definition of Christian that CF uses.....Jesus is already known to be God, and He does not need to eat His own flesh, or drink His own blood, He has already got them. You OP appears to miss this very simple point.
 
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Mental exercise.

“If” Jesus came back to dwell among us humans again in the form of a man. Would He be able to have communion in your church?
The purpose of communion is to remember Jesus' sacrifice by partaking in bread and wine, symbolizing his body and blood given for salvation

it's for humans to remember His great sacrifice.... no reason for He himself to take communion, it's for human remembrance of Him.
 
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The question feels strangely moot since He's literally there every single time the Eucharist is celebrated. I don't have to imagine Him coming down to be at His Table--He's already down, here, in His Table.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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In other words, no, your church would not allow Him to have communion.
Your posts display complete ignorance to what the Eucharist is.
 
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Another Mental exercise:

Did Jesus partake of the Eucharist at the Last Supper?
We don't know and the question is purely academic. I suspect He did in order to lead by example.

He didn't need to take part, but I think He did. He didn't need to be baptised by John either, but He was.

That's just my personal opinion. I don't know for sure either way.
 
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Another Mental exercise:

Did Jesus partake of the Eucharist at the Last Supper?
Eucharist, in Christianity, ritual commemoration of JesusLast Supper with his disciples. The Eucharist (from the Greek eucharistia for “thanksgiving”) is the central act of Christian worship and is practiced by most Christian churches in some form. Along with baptism it is one of the two sacraments most clearly found in the New Testament.

In the eucharistic prayer, the church commemorates Jesus Christ and his redeeming work, especially his sacrifice for the sake of all humankind through his crucifixion. The celebration also recalls the origin of the Eucharist in the Last Supper, when Jesus, anticipating his imminent death, offered his disciples bread and wine, saying, “Take this, all of you, and eat of it, for this is my body, which will be given up for you,” and, “Take this, all of you, and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my blood,…which will be poured out for you.” Jesus instructed the disciples to perpetuate this banquet in his memory.


Eucharist | Definition, Symbols, Meaning, Significance, & Facts | Britannica
 
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