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You just demonstrated blind belief in propaganda.
Ending crime begins with minimizing poverty and despair, not with ICE parachuting to the rooves of those who need compassion.
It seems to be reversed to me since I have deep concerns about what ICE did. Nonetheless ICE is not at fault for the squalor & crime that has perpetually plagued this apartment complex. These problems have occurred under demo political leaderships which also adds the layer of illegal immigration to already existing crime and poverty. Somehow Trump caused all of this thoughin some perspectives.
 
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It seems to be reversed to me since I have deep concerns about what ICE did. Nonetheless ICE is not at fault for the squalor & crime that has perpetually plagued this apartment complex. These problems have occurred under demo political leaderships which also adds the layer of illegal immigration to already existing crime and poverty. Somehow Trump caused all of this thoughin some perspectives.
But surely you must concur that federal cutbacks that exacerbate income inequality, educational deficits, mental health challenges, etc. have an impact on crime.
 
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So, your supposed concern is really just meaninglessness—as long as you don't have to deal with those people, their fate doesn't matter to you.
It is not meaningless the number of people that have died, been raped, trafficked, and been harmed and continued to be harmed by drug cartels. Go blast their government for all this, not ours.
 
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But surely you must concur that federal cutbacks that exacerbate income inequality, educational deficits, mental health challenges, etc. have an impact on crime.
Good, good....People are not coming here because we are the culprits to their situation. Their own rulers are the cause. The income equality is government taking all the wealth..
Blast them, not us. Capitalism provides the best (not perfect) financial situation for it's citizens.
 
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It is not meaningless the number of people that have died, been raped, trafficked, and been harmed and continued to be harmed by drug cartels. Go blast their government for all this, not ours.
Surely we have a dog in that fight, since we buy the drugs which fund the cartels and since most of their weapons come from the US.
 
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But surely you must concur that federal cutbacks that exacerbate income inequality, educational deficits, mental health challenges, etc. have an impact on crime.
The income equality is their own government Geesh. Maybe you could benefit them if you acknowledged that. Instead of pushing the same for America? I do not want to end up like them.
 
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That is on their corrupt government, not ours.
Their government is forcing us to buy drugs? Their government requires that they buy guns in the US?
 
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Their government is forcing us to buy drugs?
Clearly their governments are in control of US drug laws making sure drugs remain illegal so the cartels trade can continue.
 
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Their production makes possible those sales. Their governments need to be called on the carpet.
Yeah, maybe in another forty years the war on drugs will be won.
 
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Closing the border is a good step,

It’s a fantasy. Drugs get into each and every maximum security prison in the country. Think we can lock the border down tighter than our maximum security prisons?
 
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The overall fate and well-being of people is what drives conservatives. It is hard for this conservative to understand the lack of concern for the worse-off of the victims of this terrible unnecessary human tragedy, the victims of violence and human trafficking. Securing the border and mass deportation was what Trump ran on, the debate took place and the American people have spoken through the election results.

I respectfully disagree with your definition of conservatism. As a conservative, I have supported leaders such as Ronald Reagan, H. Bush, W. Bush, M Romney, Paul Ryan, among others; their policies reflected the principles of conservatism.

However, I understand that since 2015, the meaning of conservatism has shifted notably from the policies of the past fifty years. Today, conservatism is often associated with apprehending farm workers harvesting tomatoes and avocados, or detaining day laborers at home improvement stores. This policies do not reflect the conservatism that characterized American ideals over the last five decades.

You are correct about President Trump was transparent about his intentions if elected. He openly stated his plan to deport millions of individuals who pick tomatoes or avocado in farms or work in meat factory or clean bathrooms in motel room. Despite this, 78 million Americans voted for him, fully aware of these policies. In his capacity as president, he has implemented actions to apprehend women and children at their homes, separate families based on citizenship status, and expedite deportations—consistent with the commitments made during his campaign. It shows that promises were made and fulfilled. However, this does not necessarily indicate conservatism.

Here is a brief historical perspective: a single election result does not constitute blanket approval of all policies. If today's Republicans believe they have received a mandate from the American people to pursue the policies they campaigned on, they are entitled to do so. However, after 13 months, during the midterm elections, they will learn what the American public truly thinks about those policies. They may take this period to celebrate and assert that they are implementing the policies Americans voted for, but any necessary corrections will occur following the midterm election.
 
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It’s a fantasy.
Bringing in immigrants helps this how?
Drugs get into each and every maximum security prison in the country. Think we can lock the border down tighter than our maximum security prisons?
Where there is a will, there is a way. Bringing immigrants into this country stops this how?
 
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Not something I said.
Then why bring it up? The governments these people live in control the wealth. Their cartels control businesses as well. A real problem in the avocado business. Dealing with this corruption is another way to deal with this situation.
 
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What do you desire? This cheap labor, or citizens? We have a waiting list for immigrants as it is. We are not in need of legal immigration in this country. Guest workers does not make for a slave class. These go back home with pretty good money in their pocket.
We have labor shortages in those fields of work where those other than US citizens fill the void. It's not about cheap labor, it's about labor period. There were farmers offering deceit wages, free dwelling and 401k plans and still couldn't get Americans to work. And yes, we are in need of legal migration in this country. We still have labor shortages. No one disputes that.
 
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