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HARK! said:
I'm referring to differences in the torah for inside and outside of the land; and I have given more than enough proof to support my claim.

If you are claiming that the tabernacle and the temple are the same; and that the instruction for atonement was the same in Babylonian captivity, as it was in the land; then the onus for proof rests with you.
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You seem to be missing our original discussion

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No. There was no Temple until after Solomon was born.
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Sure there was, they made a tent/tabernacle during the wilderness so God could dwell among His people Exo 25:8 (added)
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It was made according to the pattern that God gave Moses modeled after the Temple in Heaven Heb 8:1-5

Was the pattern, not the materials different in the immobile earthy temple than from the heavenly one, or the mobile one? Please provide Scripture. Did it serve different purposes? Please provide Scripture.
 
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SabbathBlessings said:
Please provide Scripture. Did it serve different purposes? Please provide Scripture.
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You seem to keep retreating back to this irrelevant point to my original point.. I have established that there were differences. That proves my point.

This red herring doesn't change that.
 
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HARK! said:
You seem to keep retreating back to this irrelevant point to my original point.. I have established that there were differences. That proves my point.

This red herring doesn't change that.
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I have been talking about the pattern this whole time (see my post 23, 26,29,36,39). You made the claim there wasn't a temple until Solomon, of course there was Exo 25:8 of course a mobile tabernacle would be different than an immobile one, but what it represented, the purpose and the pattern of it, is it different? I do not think so. but open to Scriptures. I just haven't seen any.

This doesn't seem like a fruitful discussion. So I am going to move along. I wish you well
 
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HARK! said:
That's my line.

The point is that forever means forever.
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You mean innocent lambs being slaughtered in heaven. No, that was a symbol representing Christ. it was a shadow until Christ now we have the substance. 1 Cor 5:7 There was no lamb sacrifices before sin and will not be after sin when Jesus returns. Rev 21:4

Guess all will get sorted out in God's time.
 
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SabbathBlessings said:
You mean innocent lambs being slaughtered in heaven. No, that was a symbol representing Christ. it was a shadow until Christ now we have the substance. 1 Cor 5:7 There was no lamb sacrifices before sin and will not be after sin when Jesus returns. Rev 21:4
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I already showed you that the sacrifices will continue, even after Yahshua's return, on Page 1.

I would encourage you to skim the study that I started on this subject.

You will find that not all zebachs are chata zebachs.

Oh, and you might find it interesting that the Pesach lamb/goat is not a sin sacrifice. It's a threshold covenant zebach. See: YHWH's Table (Part 8A)

BTW, the Zadokites (The Priests that YHWH ordained to settle all disputes concerning his word) would renew their threshold covenant with YHWH every year, just as Yashua honored Yah's Moedim, and Yashua's disciples continued to honor Yah's Moedim long after Yahshua had ascended.

They knew, because Yah has told us all. His Moedim are forever.

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Guess all will get sorted out in God's time.
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(CLV) Zch 14:16
And it will come to be that everyone left of all the nations coming against Jerusalem, they will also go up, as often as year by year, to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to celebrate the festival of booths.

(CLV) Zch 14:17
And it will come, whoever shall not go up from the families of the earth, to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, then the downpour shall not come on them.

(CLV) Zch 14:18
And if a family of Egypt shall not go up, and will not come, then it will not be on them; there shall come the stroke with which Yahweh shall strike the nations (The Goyim) which will not go up to celebrate »the festival of booths.

(CLV) Zch 14:19
This shall be the sin of Egypt, and the sin of all the nations (The Goyim) which will not go up to celebrate the festival of booths.

(CLV) Zch 14:20
In that day there shall be on the horse shades: Holy to Yahweh. And the pots in the house of Yahweh will be like the sprinkling bowls before the altar.

(CLV) Zch 14:21
And every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah will come to be holy to Yahweh of hosts. And all who are sacrificing will come and take of them and cook in them. And not longer shall there be a trafficker in the house of Yahweh of hosts, in that day.


Happy Sukkot! Tomorrow is the last great day according to Enoch's calendar, the calendar that the Zadokites keep.

I'll be firing up the barbeque,
 
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HARK! said:
I already showed you that the sacrifices will continue, even after Yahshua's return, on Page 1.

I would encourage you to skim the study that I started on this subject.

You will find that not all zebachs are chata zebachs.

Oh, and you might find it interesting that the Pesach lamb/goat is not a sin sacrifice. It's a threshold covenant zebach. See: YHWH's Table (Part 8A)

BTW, the Zadokites (The Priests that YHWH ordained to settle all disputes concerning his word) would renew their threshold covenant with YHWH every year, just as Yashua honored Yah's Moedim, and Yashua's disciples continued to honor Yah's Moedim long after Yahshua had ascended.

They knew, because Yah has told us all. His Moedim are forever.



(CLV) Zch 14:16
And it will come to be that everyone left of all the nations coming against Jerusalem, they will also go up, as often as year by year, to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to celebrate the festival of booths.

(CLV) Zch 14:17
And it will come, whoever shall not go up from the families of the earth, to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, then the downpour shall not come on them.

(CLV) Zch 14:18
And if a family of Egypt shall not go up, and will not come, then it will not be on them; there shall come the stroke with which Yahweh shall strike the nations (The Goyim) which will not go up to celebrate »the festival of booths.

(CLV) Zch 14:19
This shall be the sin of Egypt, and the sin of all the nations (The Goyim) which will not go up to celebrate the festival of booths.

(CLV) Zch 14:20
In that day there shall be on the horse shades: Holy to Yahweh. And the pots in the house of Yahweh will be like the sprinkling bowls before the altar.

(CLV) Zch 14:21
And every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah will come to be holy to Yahweh of hosts. And all who are sacrificing will come and take of them and cook in them. And not longer shall there be a trafficker in the house of Yahweh of hosts, in that day.


Happy Sukkot! Tomorrow is the last great day according to Enoch's calendar, the calendar that the Zadokites keep.

I'll be firing up the barbeque,
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Rev 21:4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

How painful is it to see an innocent lamb be killed. It was meant to be painful because its just a small fraction of what it did to Jesus our Sacrificial Lamb who Scarified ONCE and FOR ALL. Heb 10:1-10

Why would we be sacrificing animals which was a shadow when we will be with the substance which is Christ. If you want to live in shadows, its not for me to judge.
 
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SabbathBlessings said:
Rev 21:4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Why would we be sacrificing animals which was a shadow when we will be with the substance which is Christ. If you want to live in shadows, its not for me to judge.
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I don't believe that John is contradicting Zechariah. Whenever I read scripture in a way that seems to have scripture contradicting scripture; my first instinct is that I am misunderstanding what I'm reading.

Do you believe that Zechariah and John are contradicting each other?

If so; how would you decide which one would be a false prophet worthy of death?

You seem to think that John is speaking against Zechariah.

If this is so; have you ripped the book of Zechariah out of your Bible?

If you believe that Zechariah is a true prophet; would it not be wise to heed his warning?
 
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