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Men now surpass women in church attendance, especially among Gen X, millennials: Barna
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There was a time when the christian response was noticeably different. But the more I hear the clearer it becomes we’ve gone off the rails. And there’s little difference in our extremism and the world’s. We used to be on fire for the Lord and that was the talking point. Now it’s one crazy ideology after another and they’re getting worse. We need to go back to the drawing board.
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you quoted from a woman who sounds to me like a feminist and has quite a radical take on the matter.
I doubt she even read the books written by christian "red pill" authors, which are nothing like the secular, however, there are problems as i said, one being it is basically a prosperity gospel. seek first the kingdom of heaven and work hard and God will help you find a high value wife. this can be true, but I don't know if that's actually what God will do for every man.
we have a generation of lost men, and women, and its not going to end well.
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I searched for the term you shared and the links I posted were the first two sites that appeared. Red pill has already been defined and the opinion is negative. Why a christian would associate themselves with something so hostile to women and unbiblical is beyond me.
What you describe is indicative of people appeasing their pain through unrealistic expectations that are unlikely to come to fruition. Your work ethic shouldn’t be tied to a spouse. We should endeavor to do well to honor the Lord for the gifts He bestowed and the resources He entrusts. Work is a spiritual pursuit and the money earned is part of our stewardship.
I posted the clip for the sake of the thread. I’ve known my share of people who thought along those lines before the manosphere was a thing. Most of them were found in subcultures where power exchanges were consensual.
You’re right about one thing. There’s a lot of lost people. Heaven help the woman who marries either. They’re ill suited to lead and need to be discipled.
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On a similar note, one thing I've noticed is more theologically liberal churches skew women, more theologically conservative churches are more even. This is something I've learned over my life & I don't often hear it talked about & suspect it's been flying under the radar for some time.
At more theologically liberal churches, I've attended them & I've thought 'where are the men?'
There's a lot at play here.
I've brought up briefly in other threads, church history isn't stagnant
At more theologically liberal churches, I've attended them & I've thought 'where are the men?'
There's a lot at play here.
I've brought up briefly in other threads, church history isn't stagnant
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That is is basically what christian red pill teaches.
Using ai to scrape the content of the christianredpill subreddit as a definition for what was actually taught by a handful of people who built it, is disingenuous.
If you did the same for this forum, an agnostic person would say christianity is a bunch of angry political arguments over differing minutia of theologies
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True. God said seek the Kingdom but everyone still keeps themselves planted in the self-serving ways of mankind. At this rate the sons of God that rules the nations have little to worry about for a long time. We still follow them.
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I didn’t use Ai and if you recall I posted 2 links. You could have followed suit and chose not to. Nor am I interested in the christianized version of red pill. The philosophy is demonic. Putting a christian spin on it doesn’t change that. You appear to feel otherwise.
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I’m not liberal and my conservatism is taking a hit in this climate and I’ll probably lean more moderate when it’s said and done. Nevertheless, I have limits to what I‘m willing to sit under spiritually or entertain. I’ve had my fill with the gender wars and I’m tired of hearing christian men sounding like mascots for red pill or quasi incels. It isn’t attractive.
If things continue as they are you’re going to lose us. We’re tired. Far more than we admit. Something has to change and I’m sure you’d agree.
~bella
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Myles Munroe talks about the kingdom all the time. Everything he says goes back to that principle. I love his teachings., And you’re right about the other. They’re not afraid of us because we’re not impactful. We’re not influencing the culture they are.
Case in point red pilled christians. You have the spirit of the Lord within you and can’t conceive an idea that isn’t based on something demonic? Yeah, they’ll be there for a while.
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And for the longest time, women were the solid backbone of a family. They guided their young ones in doing God's will. Unfortunately, women wanted more to their lives (which is understandable in our day and age) and they started to take a "not as solid as before" backbone position (though I'm starting to see a small but steady return back to that position). Maybe it is time once again for men to take more of the responsibility in the religious sense to lead their young ones to Christ.
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He was a well known pastor from the Bahamas. Many believe his position on the gay agenda got him killed. His teachings on leadership were so good fortune 500 companies brought him in (e.g. Microsoft). He was the first to take the principle and apply it to the lifespan. And he funded his church by purchasing a building he could rent out during the week and the revenue funded ministries.
If you look him up on YouTube you’ll be shocked by the audience. Men in suits and women similarly dressed throughout. No jeans, tee shirts or the like. He was a rare breed. I don’t admire many but his gifting is great.
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Women took the lead because men weren‘t interested. I’ve been in those circles for more than 20 years and mentored my share.
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The church would not have gotten anywhere without women from the very start. Women are indispensable.
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Let them stunt. We aren’t crying because we’re single or becoming incels. We’re investing in ourselves, our families and communities. This thread has encouraged me to encourage my friends to invest in them.
Maybe it’s time for an alternative in the christian dating space.
~ bella
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Absolutely not.
There is a saying, eat the meat, spit out the bones. It goes for everything, catholic vs protestant heresies too.
Men can learn a lot from various christian authors, but with regard to improving yourself to attract a better woman, its just the flesh.
and women must resist it too, but very few pastors dare speak against the games women play. My late friend and i had long conversations about this. What is missing is love.
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In many cases, there's nothing wrong with them at all. They come into churches which are sexist, misogynistic, hostile, or downright abusive; discern the problems, realise this has nothing to do with the gospel or the reign of God, find that they have very little scope to make any real difference, and walk away, the better to use their gifts and strengths to make a positive difference elsewhere.
Some days I wonder why I haven't done the same, and I've been a priest for eleven years now...
@bèlla is right when she says something has to change.
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There's a difference between being willing to serve, and being willing to have your energy co-opted to misdirected ends.
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