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January 6 fugitive arrested in Obama’s neighborhood with guns and materials to make Molotov cocktails (referencing a Trump post w/Obama's address)

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Impartial sources of absolute fact such as Fox News, Russia Today, or One America News Network I'd imagine.
You mean the ones being sued for defamation? :scratch:
 
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You mean the ones being sued for defamation? :scratch:
Details, detail. We should ignore those minor issues if the sources tell me what I really wish were true. Even better if I get irrationally outraged in the process and it overrides my ability to rationally evaluate if what they're saying makes even the slightest bit of sense.
 
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Older news, but I don't think the actual charges were posted before:

The Jan. 6 rioter arrested near Obama's home with guns and ammo is indicted


Taranto, 37, of Pasco, Washington, is facing two felony charges of carrying a pistol without a license and possession of a large-capacity ammunition feeding device. He was also charged with four misdemeanors tied to his involvement in the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol breach, court documents show.

The [Jan 6] video was posted with a caption stating, "This is me "stormin' the capitol" lol I'm only sharing this so someone will report me to the feds and we can get this party rolling!"
 
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Older news, but I don't think the actual charges were posted before:

The Jan. 6 rioter arrested near Obama's home with guns and ammo is indicted


Taranto, 37, of Pasco, Washington, is facing two felony charges of carrying a pistol without a license and possession of a large-capacity ammunition feeding device. He was also charged with four misdemeanors tied to his involvement in the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol breach, court documents show.

The [Jan 6] video was posted with a caption stating, "This is me "stormin' the capitol" lol I'm only sharing this so someone will report me to the feds and we can get this party rolling!"
Oh. He is from Pasco. Say no more.
 
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Older news, but I don't think the actual charges were posted before:

The Jan. 6 rioter arrested near Obama's home with guns and ammo is indicted


Taranto, 37, of Pasco, Washington, is facing two felony charges of carrying a pistol without a license and possession of a large-capacity ammunition feeding device. He was also charged with four misdemeanors tied to his involvement in the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol breach, court documents show.

The [Jan 6] video was posted with a caption stating, "This is me "stormin' the capitol" lol I'm only sharing this so someone will report me to the feds and we can get this party rolling!"
And he never mentioned Ray Epps while doing so?

There goes that narrative.
 
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Jan. 6 defendant arrested at Obama's home is hit with new felony charges

Online sleuths identified Taylor Taranto in 2021, but he was arrested only after he showed up near the former president's home with weapons in a van, prosecutors say.

A federal grand jury returned a superseding indictment against Taylor Taranto

Three of the new charges relate to guns and ammunition that alleged to have been found in Taranto's van when he was arrested. Taranto also faces a felony charge of obstruction of an official proceeding for his conduct on Jan. 6, 2021. He also faces a charge of false information and hoaxes, accused of falsely threatening that he was going to set off an explosive at the National Institute of Standards and Technology before his eventual arrest.
 
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Jan. 6 defendant arrested at Obama's home is hit with new felony charges

Online sleuths identified Taylor Taranto in 2021, but he was arrested only after he showed up near the former president's home with weapons in a van, prosecutors say.

A federal grand jury returned a superseding indictment against Taylor Taranto

Three of the new charges relate to guns and ammunition that alleged to have been found in Taranto's van when he was arrested. Taranto also faces a felony charge of obstruction of an official proceeding for his conduct on Jan. 6, 2021. He also faces a charge of false information and hoaxes, accused of falsely threatening that he was going to set off an explosive at the National Institute of Standards and Technology before his eventual arrest.
The Supreme Court is hearing and will decide the "Obstruction" charges brought by federal prosecutors, a future ruling that may very well overturn many cases
 
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I'm reminded of the Bundy Ranch standoff. I try to explain to my friends that there are, broadly speaking, two camps in the conservative movement. A few of the things they have in common are the love of the US constitution, and especially the first few amendments. It's one reason they tend to hate the cancel culture so much, and see the second amendment as the right of the people to defend themselves against a tyrannical government.

But here's the problem: One group is constrained by the love of Jesus. They are very slow to anger (via physical violence) and many would only act out in an extremely dire situation and strictly out of self defense. The other, though, is not so constrained. They are the ones that, if it is strongly enough believed that another election was stolen - or violent Islamic sympathizers are causing too much trouble through "side with Palestine" riots - would be willing to more aggressively act out in violence. And I think that will be a real risk this summer and next November. And if that does happen, nobody wins - at least in the short run.

as I've been asking friends for almost a year now, "What do you think the losing side will do after the November election in the US?" Whichever side loses, they've each hinted at an MO.

This perspective was actually the driving force behind adding the last line of my post signature below.

And I sometimes wonder if the film coming out on tax day, "Civil War", will not add fuel to the fire - though I do not advocate for "cancelling" it.
 
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Taranto was livestreaming video on YouTube in which he said he was looking for “entrance points” to underground tunnels and wanted to get a “good angle on a shot,” according to prosecutors. He reposted Trump’s message about Obama’s home address and wrote, “We got these losers surrounded! See you in hell, Podesta’s and Obama’s.” He was referring to John Podesta, who chaired Hillary Clinton’s 2016 Democratic presidential campaign.

...In Taranto’s case, however, prosecutors said the firearms offenses he faces are “wholly unrelated to the pardon.” Taranto, a Navy veteran from Pasco, Washington, is charged with carrying firearms without a license, with illegally possessing large-capacity magazines and ammunition and with making a hoax bomb threat.

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols, who was nominated by Trump, is hearing testimony and will decide the case without a jury. The government’s first trial witness was an FBI agent who led the frantic search for Taranto after Capitol police investigators watched his livestreamed video and heard what they believed to be a bomb threat.

Whose rhetoric instigated this?
 
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