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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

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If only you had that zeal during the last election.
I did what I could as an Independent voter, but the mainline Dems didn't give me much to go on. AOC28! But I would be happy to support Tammy Duckworth. She was nudged out of the VP spot in '24 by Harris, but I think the way things turned out, if she had been VP she would be President now,
 
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Gee, if it's only one block I wonder why it's gone on for so long. Seems like the local police could handle that. Why haven't they?
They've given it as much attention as necessary for a peaceable assembly
 
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It's not the only place they are and not yhe only place they have been violent. Heck we have leftist politicians talking about putting bullets in opponents brains and wishing their children are killed. We have a LARGE amount of leftists who support political violence and assassinations.

So Im really wondering who should be considering leaving and why and who is really causing problems here.
You know the info in here is a big nothing burger...support and talk.

1 block in a 135sq mile city.


Why do you keep listening to this admin?
 
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That's nice, but the military are not police, and it is not a warzone by any definition unless you are severely mentally deluded.
Young folks today don't remember the real riots of the past.

If there was today the kind of violence that required mobilization of the National Guard in the past, the news would be filled with images of burning buildings every day.
 
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Young folks today don't remember the real riots of the past.

If there was today the kind of violence that required mobilization of the National Guard in the past, the news would be filled with images of burning buildings every day.
Part of the problem is that a certain segment of the population does have their news filled with images and accounts of burning buildings (and other riotous acts) every day. They just fail to recognize that these images and accounts are reposts, exaggerations, out-of-context, or flat-out fakes. The ability of propagandists to manufacture a narrative out of whole cloth has increased massively since the '60s and '70s - and even the '90s - and there are far more people willing and able to do so. The public has, at the same time, become far more credulous, willing to unquestioningly accept whatever narrative fits their narrow worldview.
 
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Part of the problem is that a certain segment of the population does have their news filled with images and accounts of burning buildings (and other riotous acts) every day. They just fail to recognize that these images and accounts are reposts, exaggerations, out-of-context, or flat-out fakes. The ability of propagandists to manufacture a narrative out of whole cloth has increased massively since the '60s and '70s - and even the '90s - and there are far more people willing and able to do so. The public has, at the same time, become far more credulous, willing to unquestioningly accept whatever narrative fits their narrow worldview.
Okay, point yours.
 
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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem today accused Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek and Portland Mayor Keith Wilson of "covering up" terrorism on Portland's streets.

"I was in Portland yesterday and had the chance to visit with the governor of Oregon and also the mayor there in town, and they are absolutely covering up the terrorism that is hitting their streets," Noem said during a roundtable about antifa that Trump held at the White House this afternoon.

"These leaders in these local cities, along with Pritzker and Johnson, ignore what’s going on, or, sir, they’re helping antifa cover it up," she added.
 
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