Let the Left Do What They Want To Do Here In America

NxNW · 2025-10-08T22:25:41-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
You wouldn't be too concerned that some of their actions would bank too far left? Turn our economy to a more socialist one

The economy has done well under Democrats.

Hvizsgyak said:
, raise our taxes to a much higher level (especially on the wealthy),

How high, and how do you define wealthy?

Hvizsgyak said:
lower the age of consent to 15 years old,

Thats a Republican thing.

Hvizsgyak said:
allow partial birth abortion,

There is no such thing.

Hvizsgyak said:
allow euthanasia ...

Thats a Republican thing. During covid they wanted the elderly to die to improve the economy.

johansen · 2025-10-08T22:52:11-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
You wouldn't be too concerned that some of their actions would bank too far left? Turn our economy to a more socialist one, raise our taxes to a much higher level (especially on the wealthy), lower the age of consent to 15 years old, allow partial birth abortion, allow euthanasia ...

america has enjoyed a fairly 50/50 split between left vs right perspectives on the tax code.

bill clinton came close to balancing the budget but had that actually happened, we would have had a severe reconing in the 8 years that followed in the next administration.

the housing bubble would not have happened, because interest rates would have been kept high instead of being dropped for.. allegedly: the purpose of blowing up the housing market. keep in mind.. financial policy is not necessarily left or right. its driven by the folks that set the interest rates. and they also who decides get to qualify for a loan.

some fringe right wing groups would support going back to pre 1913 federal reserve days (which is neigher federal nor a reserve) and let anyone create their own banks and currencies, since governments should be representatives of nations. not agents of bankers.

bankers.. who own everything.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-10-08T22:59:13-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
What would happen (and I kind of have a good feeling the outcome) if we just caved to the demands of the Left. Let the values and morals of Kamala Harris, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Hilary Clinton, George Soros, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, Ophrah Winfrey, Bill Clinton, James Carville, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Al Sharpton, Jasmine Crockett, some of our local liberals such as EssentialSaltes, Hans Blaster, Pommer, DaiseyDay, BCP1928, NxNw, iluvatar5150, TropicalWinds, Larniavc, and don't forget Bradski and so on just run the government. Tell them, "You guys are in charge; just leave us alone. We won't bother you, don't bother us. Of course, I know the first they will do is "bother us" probably by raising our taxes through the roof, possibly seizing our land, abolishing places of worship but let's let them have their way.

How far will it go? Will they make our country better to live in? There is no arguing with these people in anyway, they don't hear us. So just let them do what they want to do. Will they make a fairly livable place to live like Canada, Germany, France, Sweden and China or will there be a point where they will just start destroying themselves such as happened during the French Revolution or the beginnings of the Soviet Union? I don't know. All I do know is I'm tired of their constant badgering. I know this is a very farfetched idea because I know most conservatives minded people have great hope for our country that it would continue on the way the founding fathers envisioned it but I just say imagine it. Would it be good or disastrous.

My next question would then be, "Would God forgive us for allowing us to let this happen or would he consider us peacemakers, we let the Left do what they want to do. They cannot say we are holding them back anymore, we've compromised everything.

Aw man I’m kinda bummed I didn’t make your list

johansen · 2025-10-08T23:02:56-0500

NxNW said:
The economy has done well under Democrats.

the business cycle is offset from the politics by about 50%. sometimes 40%, sometimes 60%. as such, the economy as measured by various factors we say "is good" may be good under democrats, but its unstainable by another group who funds the republicans and then they get elected the next cycle.
if this wasn't the case, the problem would have fixed itself by now.

I remember the anti war protestors of the 2000-2015 era and they all thought the military budget was 75% of the budget. it wasn't, it was 20-25.

It was 75% of the digressionary budget with the other 75% of the rest of the budget being other things no senator or congressman would even talk about unless they didn't want to get re-elected. I realized they couldn't be reasoned with in my teenage years, 20 years ago.

As it is now, america cannot afford 60% of its budget, which is entirely medicare medicaid and social security.

The 7% inflation we have been running is pretty consistent with the near doubling in prices per 10 years, its just the rule of 72.
this has been unsustainable for about 30 years now. its just that it takes an entire generation (25 years) to notice things are going wrong. then another generation to mess it up to the point it goes wrong.

NxNW · 2025-10-08T23:05:38-0500

Been as long long time since a recession recession under a Democrat.

Hans Blaster · 2025-10-09T00:48:54-0500

GoldenBoy89 said:
Aw man I’m kinda bummed I didn’t make your list

I have no idea what this thread is.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-10-09T02:14:58-0500

I literally just want better healthcare, education, infrastructure and less shootings.

Desk trauma · 2025-10-09T06:25:58-0500

Hans Blaster said:
I have no idea what this thread is.

Liberals bad.

Desk trauma · 2025-10-09T06:26:13-0500

GoldenBoy89 said:
I literally just want better healthcare, education, infrastructure and less shootings.

Horrific.

Hvizsgyak · 2025-10-09T09:31:56-0500

GoldenBoy89 said:
Aw man I’m kinda bummed I didn’t make your list

I'll make sure I include you in the next one

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Hans Blaster · 2025-10-09T10:00:10-0500

Desk trauma said:
Liberals bad

I see. I thought at first it was about policy proposals, then it seemed to be about how liberals would persecute christians. Very confusing.

Here is a few "reforms" for consideration:

End the reporting exemption for religious 501(c)3 organizations. (Report your finances churches!)
End the offices of religious whatever in the White House.

Hvizsgyak · 2025-10-09T10:14:24-0500

Based on what I have read so far, people who lean more to the left feel there would be no problems with the Liberals running the country. Although, I not sure how many of them understood that there would be no opposition from the right (great sadness yes but no opposition). They seem to be okay with Jan Schakowsky, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Jamie Raskin, Greg Casar, Barbara Lee and others and that they would lead our country to success. I thought there would be some objective thinking here and some words of caution about giving some people too much power,

Hvizsgyak · 2025-10-09T10:21:38-0500

Hans Blaster said:
I see. I thought at first it was about policy proposals, then it seemed to be about how liberals would persecute christians. Very confusing.

Here is a few "reforms" for consideration:

End the reporting exemption for religious 501(c)3 organizations. (Report your finances churches!)
End the offices of religious whatever in the White House.

I appreciate your input as to what should be done if liberals had no opposition in implementing their policies but what I'm really looking for is would liberal politicians leave conservative people alone to live their own lives the way they see fit or would they come after conservative (who many are religious in nature) people's way of life. Something that you are touching upon a little - their religious life.

Desk trauma · 2025-10-09T10:24:41-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
Based on what I have read so far, people who lean more to the left feel there would be no problems with the Liberals running the country.

Those on the left don’t take issue with politicians they agree with being in office? Insidious.

Hans Blaster · 2025-10-09T10:24:54-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
Based on what I have read so far, people who lean more to the left feel there would be no problems with the Liberals running the country. Although, I not sure how many of them understood that there would be no opposition from the right (great sadness yes but no opposition). They seem to be okay with Jan Schakowsky, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Jamie Raskin, Greg Casar, Barbara Lee and others and that they would lead our country to success. I thought there would be some objective thinking here and some words of caution about giving some people too much power,

That is a very odd list. Barbara Lee left Congress to be mayor of Oakland. Holmes Norton represents DC and can't even vote on bills (not a state). The first I ever even heard of Schakowsky was that she was retiring at the end of this Congress and not running for reelection. Jamie Raskin may be the best human in Congress.

Hans Blaster · 2025-10-09T10:26:28-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
I appreciate your input as to what should be done if liberals had no opposition in implementing their policies but what I'm really looking for is would liberal politicians leave conservative people alone to live their own lives the way they see fit or would they come after conservative (who many are religious in nature) people's way of life. Something that you are touching upon a little - their religious life.

I don't believe in special privileges for religions. They should meet the same requirements as any other non-profit group and the White House shouldn't have special offices for them. I'm sure your church will do fine without contact with the White House.

Desk trauma · 2025-10-09T10:29:33-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
I appreciate your input as to what should be done if liberals had no opposition in implementing their policies but what I'm really looking for is would liberal politicians leave conservative people alone to live their own lives the way they see fit or would they come after conservative (who many are religious in nature) people's way of life. Something that you are touching upon a little - their religious life.

Why do you think churches would be closed, property seized or other fears of not being left alone materialize if there was a liberal super majority?

essentialsaltes · 2025-10-09T10:37:43-0500

Desk trauma · 2025-10-09T10:40:20-0500

essentialsaltes said:
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How anyone, regardless of political ideology, could not want replicators, holodecks and FTL travel is beyond me.

essentialsaltes · 2025-10-09T10:43:47-0500

Desk trauma said:
How anyone, regardless of political ideology, could not want replicators, holodecks and FTL travel is beyond me.

But Star Trek recently became woke! Yuck!

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