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Trump Orders Flags to Half-Staff for Charlie Kirk

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Honestly I don’t really care. Maybe he should have just stayed quiet a little bit longer he’d still have his license.

But therein lies an issue...

One-sided credentialism used to convey some sort of "expertise" on a very new thing, for which, nobody can really be an true expert yet, doesn't carry the same weight as things that are much more established.

Especially not to a degree in which we should be silencing any detractors.

For example:

A doctor expressing a contrarian viewpoint about the efficacy of cloth masks and the arbitrary nature of the social distancing rules with respect to a very new disease/pathogen, should not be categorized the same way as if a doctor was out there saying "the medical establishment is lying, smoking cigs is actually good for you!"


It also produces two sets of rules...

Where, if a doctor is perceived to be aligned with "the correct political side", they get all the grace in the world to be wrong and flip-flop on their positions numerous times (even on the same subject), based on "well, this is all very new...the science changed". Yet, doctors perceived to be on the "wrong political side" get the misinformation label and get their license threatened.
 
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But therein lies an issue...

One-sided credentialism used to convey some sort of "expertise" on a very new thing, for which, nobody can really be an true expert yet, doesn't carry the same weight as things that are much more established.

Especially not to a degree in which we should be silencing any detractors.

For example:

A doctor expressing a contrarian viewpoint about the efficacy of cloth masks and the arbitrary nature of the social distancing rules with respect to a very new disease/pathogen, should not be categorized the same way as if a doctor was out there saying "the medical establishment is lying, smoking cigs is actually good for you!"


It also produces two sets of rules...

Where, if a doctor is perceived to be aligned with "the correct political side", they get all the grace in the world to be wrong and flip-flop on their positions numerous times (even on the same subject), based on "well, this is all very new...the science changed". Yet, doctors perceived to be on the "wrong political side" get the misinformation label and get their license threatened.
Like I said, I don’t really care what happened to him or how. I’m well past the back and forth over Covid denialism at this point. That horse has been beat to death on here.

He chose to hawk supplements to his medically illiterate following over his credentialed and respectable cardiology practice. Nobody cost him his license but himself.
 
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- the COVID-19 pandemic was planned
- spike proteins cause cell death
- claiming huge numbers of deaths from the COVID vaccine
- conspiracy theories about how the medical establishment was suppressing information on ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine treatment
- there's no evidence of asymptomatic COVID-19 spread
- people who have had COVID-19 cannot be reinfected
As opposed to
- the lab leak theory is racist
- "if you get vaccinated, you won't catch covid"
- "cloth masks work because it spreads primary via droplets
- "natural immunity isn't reliable

Why was there no permanent professional consequences for those bits of misinformation?
 
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As opposed to
- the lab leak theory is racist
- "if you get vaccinated, you won't catch covid"
- "cloth masks work because it spreads primary via droplets
- "natural immunity isn't reliable

Why was there no permanent professional consequences for those bits of misinformation?
What does any of this have to do with flags at half mast for Charlie Kirk?

This thread has obviously run its course.
 
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As opposed to
- the lab leak theory is racist
- "if you get vaccinated, you won't catch covid"
- "cloth masks work because it spreads primary via droplets
- "natural immunity isn't reliable

Why was there no permanent professional consequences for those bits of misinformation?
What is you point? That this guy (I don't know his name), Bret Weinstein, and all the other RW culture war "martyrs" you have brought up are just as unworthy of that appellation as the titular Mr. Kirk and his "half staff" honors? If so, congrats, else this is a dead horse. I concur with @GoldenBoy89 .
 
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He musted have been respected enough back 2012 to be invited give a Ted Talk
TED-X which is a far easier, less prestigious than regular TED.



Understanding the differences between TED and TEDx Talks can help you decide which platform better suits your interests and goals. TED Talks focus on broad, impactful ideas from top experts, while TEDx Talks bring the spirit of TED to local communities, offering a more intimate and diverse range of topics.

Both types of talks aim to inspire and educate audiences, but they do so in different ways. TED events provide a polished, high-profile platform for groundbreaking ideas, whereas TEDx events foster a sense of community and local engagement. Each type has unique strengths and caters to different audience needs.
 
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What does any of this have to do with flags at half mast for Charlie Kirk?

This thread has obviously run its course.
It's because someone else had replied in the thread about people having negative professional consequences (and doxxing) for not going along with what the sitting administration/in-power party wanted as far as public discourse surrounding a contentious issue... so I provided examples of professionals who faced consequences for that reason, a few of the examples were professors who refused to cancel finals for a "Floyd remembrance day" and a few of the examples I provided were covid contrarians, that's how this particular off-shoot the conversation came up.
 
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It's because someone else had replied in the thread about people having negative professional consequences (and doxxing) for not going along with what the sitting administration/in-power party wanted as far as public discourse surrounding a contentious issue... so I provided examples of professionals who faced consequences for that reason, a few of the examples were professors who refused to cancel finals for a "Floyd remembrance day" and a few of the examples I provided were covid contrarians, that's how this particular off-shoot the conversation came up.
Thanks. I see now how it got here.
 
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