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You know, demons may traverse ''heavenly places'' (Ephesians 6:12), but I have never known the likes, such as this pack of evil spirits to be welcomed by so many self-professing Christians that to this day, celebrate the martyrdom/murder of Christian Charlie Kirk!

Grant them understanding Father for the loss they now exhibit, their destitution from that blessed engrafted word of God for which brother Kirk paid the price for.
 

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You know, demons may traverse ''heavenly places'' (Ephesians 6:12), but I have never known the likes, such as this pack of evil spirits to be welcomed by so many self-professing Christians that to this day, celebrate the martyrdom/murder of Christian Charlie Kirk!

Grant them understanding Father for the loss they now exhibit, their destitution from that blessed engrafted word of God for which brother Kirk paid the price for.
I don't know any Holy Spirit filled Christian celebrating this tragedy. Maybe point me to a video or article? Because I keep hearing this and have yet to see some proof. Thanks!
Be blessed.
 
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I don't know any Holy Spirit filled Christian celebrating this tragedy. Maybe point me to a video or article? Because I keep hearing this and have yet to see some proof. Thanks!
Be blessed.
Thanks Maria! I had no idea after the assault, I might need a record of the slow build of occerences
'', this pack of evil spirits to be welcomed by so many self-professing Christians that to this day, celebrate the martyrdom/murder of Christian Charlie Kirk!
As a Virginia Baptist Pastor, Rev Dr Howard John-Wesley put it, ''I'm overwhelmed by folks who call themselves Christian, simply because they invoked the name of Jesus and quote scripture from the Old Testament," he said.

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Not an especially progressive wing. Ignorance is such a bad state to fixate on. But, I'll add to the list, as I come across this damaging trend.
 
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Thanks Maria! I had no idea after the assault, I might need a record of the slow build of occerences

As a Virginia Baptist Pastor, Rev Dr Howard John-Wesley put it, ''I'm overwhelmed by folks who call themselves Christian, simply because they invoked the name of Jesus and quote scripture from the Old Testament," he said.

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Not an especially progressive wing. Ignorance is such a bad state to fixate on. But, I'll add to the list, as I come across this damaging trend.
I'm Confused, the first thing he says is he does not celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk or did he deserve it. Just because he disagrees with Charlie Kirk's views does not mean this Pastor's church is packed with evil spirits. Next.....
 
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I'm Confused, the first thing he says is he does not celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk or did he deserve it. Just because he disagrees with Charlie Kirk's views does not mean this Pastor's church is packed with evil spirits. Next.....
Dear Maria, grace and peace! There is always, always, a difference between doctrinal dullness and hatred. Is that what you are suggesting? No possible association at all upon a person delivering the correction and a 'healthy' disagreement, is that right? Yes, this could often be exactly what is at work here, that there is a direct correlation to the massive block they despise that brings down some cultural fashion within a Church or churches. Of course, for those who have little to do with believers outside their comfort-zone, it won't be cognizant of the many who still refuse to offer the faintest glimmer of condolence, knowing, others mourn.
 
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Dear Maria, grace and peace! There is always, always, a difference between doctrinal dullness and hatred. Is that what you are suggesting? No possible association at all upon a person delivering the correction and a 'healthy' disagreement, is that right? Yes, this could often be exactly what is at work here, that there is a direct correlation to the massive block they despise that brings down some cultural fashion within a Church or churches. Of course, for those who have little to do with believers outside their comfort-zone, it won't be cognizant of the many who still refuse to offer the faintest glimmer of condolence, knowing, others mourn.
I believe and follow ,as best I can , the two commandments given to us by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. This is His doctrine to the Church. Persecution that abounds within the fold is counterintuitive and a direct violation of the commandments given to us.

Unfortunately, due to this schism, the harvest suffers because there is no love amongst the brethren. The witnesses are literally poisoning the harvest rather grow His Kingdom. Jesus Christ of Nazareth predicted this.

Let us reason.

Matthew 22:37-39
Jesus replied: "‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

If it is not loving , then it is not from Him.

Blessings
 
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I believe and follow ,as best I can , the two commandments given to us by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. This is His doctrine to the Church. Persecution that abounds within the fold is counterintuitive and a direct violation of the commandments given to us.

Unfortunately, due to this schism, the harvest suffers because there is no love amongst the brethren. The witnesses are literally poisoning the harvest rather grow His Kingdom. Jesus Christ of Nazareth predicted this.

Let us reason.

Matthew 22:37-39
Jesus replied: "‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

If it is not loving , then it is not from Him.

Blessings
Beautiful Maria! Believe me, there was a time when the Spirit had to roughen me for a season to my beloved Pentecostal stripe, afterwards, I knew right where I stood with them, knowing at the same time, my love for the commonwealth at the cross could now enlarge itself. Thereby, committing all the more to all who call heaven 'home', conditions one for an ample discerning whenever strong resistance seeks to evade the light of correction. This has served me well to equip in areas not at all customary to the many general councils of particular denominational allegiance, not the least of which is a better perspective through the Spirit's lens and not lens of allegiance.
 
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