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Do you Agree with what Hillary says in this Video

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I don't have facebook, so I can't watch it :(
She says: We should NOT give taxpayer funded healthcare benefits to illegal aliens or encourage illegal immigration.

A caption on the bottom says:
"Democrats had no issue with her saying this not too long ago". <-- implying they do now
 
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She says: We should NOT give taxpayer funded healthcare benefits to illegal aliens or encourage illegal immigration.

A caption on the bottom says:
"Democrats had no issue with her saying this not too long ago". <-- implying they do now
That is still their position but conservatives will lie about that to get people against Democrats. On
 
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She says: We should NOT give taxpayer funded healthcare benefits to illegal aliens or encourage illegal immigration.

A caption on the bottom says:
"Democrats had no issue with her saying this not too long ago". <-- implying they do now

Fact check.
 
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That is still their position but conservatives will lie about that to get people against Democrats. On
childeye 2 said:
A caption on the bottom says:
"Democrats had no issue with her saying this not too long ago". <-- implying they do now.

As a Technicality I'd call it suggestive and give it a maybe for plausible deniability, but I know what you mean; I was just pointing out the suggestive thought being projected.
 
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She says: We should NOT give taxpayer funded healthcare benefits to illegal aliens or encourage illegal immigration.

A caption on the bottom says:
"Democrats had no issue with her saying this not too long ago". <-- implying they do now
Then I agree that we shouldn't give taxpayer funded healthcare to illegals. It's creating a serious economic drain when you have tens of millions of people getting handouts and not putting back into the system. It's also creating an incentive to become illegal. Having a hard time in your own country? Just hop the fence and get free stuff in this other country!! I mean, who wouldn't? People were literally claiming asylum because of poverty, which isn't a valid argument.

We have rules for a reason and if someone really does need help, they can file paperwork the legal way. My husband is an immigrant, but a legal one and came into the country legally. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for anyone who goes to another country, breaks the law in doing so, and then expects handouts. You come in legally? Then sure, give them medical care.
 
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Then I agree that we shouldn't give taxpayer funded healthcare to illegals. It's creating a serious economic drain when you have tens of millions of people getting handouts and not putting back into the system. It's also creating an incentive to become illegal. Having a hard time in your own country? Just hop the fence and get free stuff in this other country!! I mean, who wouldn't? People were literally claiming asylum because of poverty, which isn't a valid argument.

We have rules for a reason and if someone really does need help, they can file paperwork the legal way. My husband is an immigrant, but a legal one and came into the country legally. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for anyone who goes to another country, breaks the law in doing so, and then expects handouts. You come in legally? Then sure, give them medical care.
If it's meant as propaganda, I think it's pretty clever.

People might NOT buy the premise that Democrats now have changed their position, but people will probably not see the more hidden premise that taxpayer funded health benefits for illegal aliens was never an issue of disagreement. It's like making up something to fight over. If it's propaganda, that looks like some effective mind manipulation.
 
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I rarely agree with the Left leaning.
I sometimes agree with the Right leaning.

I agree with what Hillary says here...


WHY, WHY WHY ...does this false information keep getting pushed when it is absolutely not true. Additionally, why would any true Christian be against helping those in need, especially children, regardless of their immigration status? I am truly perplexed by anyone who claims they follow Jesus Christ of Nazareth but yet do not do His will. I will pray that this will soon pass for the sake of His elect.

Once again, AI has the truth:

The Republican claim that undocumented immigrants have been "folded into" or are receiving full coverage under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) is widely characterized as false or misleading political rhetoric that surfaces during key legislative and budget debates.
Here's an analysis of where this idea originates and why it's a prominent political talking point, despite the facts:
The Origin of the Political Rhetoric
* Response to Democratic Proposals (The immediate cause):
* The claim is frequently raised by Republicans, particularly in recent years, when Democrats advocate for the extension of enhanced ACA premium tax credits (subsidies) or push back against cuts to Medicaid.
* Republicans often frame the Democrats' healthcare priorities as a demand for "free healthcare for illegal aliens" or "full benefits for undocumented immigrants" to oppose the funding measures, even when those measures are specifically for U.S. citizens and lawfully present immigrants.
* General Anti-Immigration and Anti-ACA Messaging:
* It serves as a powerful talking point that ties two major conservative policy opposition points together: strict immigration enforcement and the repeal/defunding of the ACA.
* The rhetoric suggests that the ACA is financially irresponsible and encourages illegal immigration by offering full benefits, which resonates with certain parts of the Republican base.
* Confusion with Limited State Programs and Emergency Care:
* There is some complexity in immigrant healthcare that can be intentionally misconstrued:
* Emergency Medicaid: Federal law does require and provide limited federal reimbursement (via Emergency Medicaid) for hospitals to treat any patient—including undocumented immigrants—for emergency medical conditions (like EMTALA mandates). This is not the full ACA or full Medicaid benefit, but the cost can be misrepresented.
* State-Funded Programs: A small number of states (like California, New York, and Illinois) use state-only funds (not federal ACA or traditional Medicaid funds) to offer comprehensive or expanded coverage to certain populations, including some undocumented immigrants. Opponents sometimes use these state-level programs to suggest a broader federal issue.
* "Lawfully Present" vs. "Undocumented": The ACA does provide coverage options (including Marketplace subsidies) for immigrants who are lawfully present (such as green card holders and asylees), but they are not the same as undocumented immigrants. Politicians can blur this distinction.
The Facts on Undocumented Immigrants and the ACA
The claim directly conflicts with current federal law:
* Federal Ineligibility: Undocumented immigrants are explicitly ineligible to enroll in Medicaid, Medicare, or to purchase coverage with subsidies through the Affordable Care Act's federal Health Insurance Marketplace (Healthcare.gov).
* Verification Requirement: To enroll in the ACA Marketplace or Medicaid, an individual must verify their U.S. citizenship or "eligible immigration status." Undocumented status does not qualify.
* Emergency Care Only: The only federal health benefit generally available to undocumented immigrants is coverage for emergency medical services through Emergency Medicaid, which is a very limited service, not comprehensive health insurance.
 
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WHY, WHY WHY ...does this false information keep getting pushed when it is absolutely not true. Additionally, why would any true Christian be against helping those in need, especially children, regardless of their immigration status? I am truly perplexed by anyone who claims they follow Jesus Christ of Nazareth but yet do not do His will. I will pray that this will soon pass for the sake of His elect.

It's not false. You may not like it, but it's not false.

On doing God's will...
In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29).
Illegal immigration breaks a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country.
Romans 13:1–7 does not give permission to violate a law just because it is perceived as unjust. Again, the issue is not the fairness of a law. The only biblical reason to violate a government’s law is if that law violates God’s Word. Immigration laws do not.
When Paul wrote the book of Romans, he was under the authority of the Roman Empire, led by Emperor Nero. Under that reign, there were many laws that were unfair, unjust, or blatantly evil. Still...Paul instructed Christians to submit to the government.
Many countries have immigration laws, some more strict than those of the US and some less strict, but most countries have to deal with illegal immigration. There is nothing in the Bible to prohibit a country from having open borders or closed borders.
The Bible does give government the authority to make laws and punish lawbreakers Rom 13:1–7. Whether the punishment is imprisonment, deportation, or something more severe, a government has the right to enforce its laws.
It is not biblical to violate a law to achieve a possible “good.” Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do, Gal 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2–15; however, that biblical mandate does not excuse lawbreaking.
Supporting, enabling, or encouraging illegal immigration is a violation of God’s Word. Those seeking to emigrate to another country should always obey the immigration laws of that country. Yes, dealing with red tape may cause delays and frustrations, but it is better than acting illegally. A frustrating law is still a law.
The biblical principle related to immigrating illegally is don’t do it; obey the laws of the land. Lawbreaking is not a biblical option, but citizens of the US have many rights under the law, including the right to change the law. So if it's your conviction that an immigration law is unjust, do everything legally within your power to get the law changed: pray, petition, vote, peacefully protest, etc. As Christians, we should be the first to seek to change any law that is truly unjust. At the same time, we are to demonstrate our submission to God by obeying the government He has placed in authority over us. 1 Peter 2:13–16.
 
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It's not false. You may not like it, but it's not false.

On doing God's will...
In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29).
Illegal immigration breaks a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country.
Romans 13:1–7 does not give permission to violate a law just because it is perceived as unjust. Again, the issue is not the fairness of a law. The only biblical reason to violate a government’s law is if that law violates God’s Word. Immigration laws do not.
When Paul wrote the book of Romans, he was under the authority of the Roman Empire, led by Emperor Nero. Under that reign, there were many laws that were unfair, unjust, or blatantly evil. Still...Paul instructed Christians to submit to the government.
Many countries have immigration laws, some more strict than those of the US and some less strict, but most countries have to deal with illegal immigration. There is nothing in the Bible to prohibit a country from having open borders or closed borders.
The Bible does give government the authority to make laws and punish lawbreakers Rom 13:1–7. Whether the punishment is imprisonment, deportation, or something more severe, a government has the right to enforce its laws.
It is not biblical to violate a law to achieve a possible “good.” Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do, Gal 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2–15; however, that biblical mandate does not excuse lawbreaking.
Supporting, enabling, or encouraging illegal immigration is a violation of God’s Word. Those seeking to emigrate to another country should always obey the immigration laws of that country. Yes, dealing with red tape may cause delays and frustrations, but it is better than acting illegally. A frustrating law is still a law.
The biblical principle related to immigrating illegally is don’t do it; obey the laws of the land. Lawbreaking is not a biblical option, but citizens of the US have many rights under the law, including the right to change the law. So if it's your conviction that an immigration law is unjust, do everything legally within your power to get the law changed: pray, petition, vote, peacefully protest, etc. As Christians, we should be the first to seek to change any law that is truly unjust. At the same time, we are to demonstrate our submission to God by obeying the government He has placed in authority over us. 1 Peter 2:13–16.
With this logic, I guess what Hitler did to the Jewish people and anyone who went against him and his regime was a righteous act and that Christians should follow suit even if it directly violates the commandments God to love one another.

Let us reason.

I will stick to what Jesus Christ of Nazareth commanded of His Flock. Love one another.

Thanks for sharing.
 
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With this logic, I guess what Hitler did to the Jewish people and anyone who went against him and his regime was a righteous act and that Christians should follow suit even if it directly violates the commandments God to love one another.

Let us reason.

I will stick to what Jesus Christ of Nazareth commanded of His Flock. Love one another.

Thanks for sharing.

Well that's an odd twist on what I shared.

What denomination, if any, are you?
 
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She says: We should NOT give taxpayer funded healthcare benefits to illegal aliens or encourage illegal immigration.

A caption on the bottom says:
"Democrats had no issue with her saying this not too long ago". <-- implying they do now
Fyi: undocumented immigrants have never gotten health benefits except in life threatening situations in the ER.
 
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Fyi: undocumented immigrants have never gotten health benefits except in life threatening situations in the ER.
There's public health centers and free clinics that are federally funded that will accept undocumented immigrants, so that's not true.
 
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The post question is...Do you Agree with what Hillary says in this Video?
Do you or not?
It doesn't matter if I do. The OP really wasn't about me, it was about Democrats.
 
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I am reminded of Exodus 12:49 for some reason. Not sure why, no country has ever done that.

In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29).
Illegal immigration breaks a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country.
Romans 13:1–7 does not give permission to violate a law just because it is perceived as unjust. Again, the issue is not the fairness of a law. The only biblical reason to violate a government’s law is if that law violates God’s Word. Immigration laws do not.
When Paul wrote the book of Romans, he was under the authority of the Roman Empire, led by Emperor Nero. Under that reign, there were many laws that were unfair, unjust, or blatantly evil. Still...Paul instructed Christians to submit to the government.
Many countries have immigration laws, some more strict than those of the US and some less strict, but most countries have to deal with illegal immigration. There is nothing in the Bible to prohibit a country from having open borders or closed borders.
The Bible does give government the authority to make laws and punish lawbreakers Rom 13:1–7. Whether the punishment is imprisonment, deportation, or something more severe, a government has the right to enforce its laws.
It is not biblical to violate a law to achieve a possible “good.” Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do, Gal 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2–15; however, that biblical mandate does not excuse lawbreaking.
Supporting, enabling, or encouraging illegal immigration is a violation of God’s Word. Those seeking to emigrate to another country should always obey the immigration laws of that country. Yes, dealing with red tape may cause delays and frustrations, but it is better than acting illegally. A frustrating law is still a law.
The biblical principle related to immigrating illegally is don’t do it; obey the laws of the land. Lawbreaking is not a biblical option, but citizens of the US have many rights under the law, including the right to change the law. So if it's your conviction that an immigration law is unjust, do everything legally within your power to get the law changed: pray, petition, vote, peacefully protest, etc. As Christians, we should be the first to seek to change any law that is truly unjust. At the same time, we are to demonstrate our submission to God by obeying the government He has placed in authority over us. 1 Peter 2:13–16.
 
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