Pregnant women taking Tylenol to spite Trump

durangodawood said:

Social media.

That place where what 0.01% of what people do becomes "the conversation" for the rest of us.

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I don't think I'm saying anything controversial when I opine that social media is the worst thing humanity has invented since the atom bomb.

-CryptoLutheran

Scaring women away from taking useful medicine widely accepted as safe by spreading conspiracy myths and then saying "better safe than sorry" seems not like a reasonable way of approaching health questions. By that logic, any medicine, foodstuff, activity or random other thing could be treated as potentially dangerous without evidence.

Tinker Grey said:

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not "to spite". Rather, "despite"

I'm sure no one is taking Tylenol "to spite Trump"
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No, apparently they are actually guzzling Tylenol while pregnant on camera to prove something to Trump.

It's literally the stupid thing, social contagion. One would hope to give our young mothers a little common sense before they become young mothers.

Male comedians are making jokes about what Trump should tell women was bad for them next, I heard dishes was a suggestion.

Nithavela said:

Scaring women away from taking useful medicine widely accepted as safe by spreading conspiracy myths and then saying "better safe than sorry" seems not like a reasonable way of approaching health questions. By that logic, any medicine, foodstuff, activity or random other thing could be treated as potentially dangerous without evidence.

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When your pregnant if it's not natural and healthy and fresh it's highly suspect - and it's positive to treat things as such. Women shouldn't eat too much processed food when they are pregnant, let alone chemicals out of a bottle unless they actually need them.

I don't think Trump was particularly well advised here but that just means it's up to people - as it's always been, to interject the balance.

Autism is real, it's been rising for decades and people do want to hear the potential causes so that they can try and be just a little more careful.

Its fairly easy to remind women that if they have a fever they can still take Tylenol as the safer option. They just shouldn't take anything when it can be avoided, for example: a few sips of wine and rest for a mild headache instead of the pill bottle, saving the Tylenol for when they need to take something

They should be doing the more careful things anyway, and probably are in many cases.

Nithavela said:

Scaring women away from taking useful medicine widely accepted as safe by spreading conspiracy myths and then saying "better safe than sorry" seems not like a reasonable way of approaching health questions. By that logic, any medicine, foodstuff, activity or random other thing could be treated as potentially dangerous without evidence.

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I'll re-post my earlier one, since I think it got lost in the sea of other posts.

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With this particular case, it's not as if they completely pulled this one out of thin air... NIH and Johns Hopkins were barking up the same tree about 5-6 years ago.



The researchers analyzed data from the Boston Birth Cohort, a 20-year study of early life factors influencing pregnancy and child development. They found that children whose cord blood samples contained the highest levels of acetaminophen—the generic name for the drug Tylenol—were roughly three times more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD or autism spectrum disorder later in childhood, compared to children with the lowest levels of acetaminophen in their cord blood.

Their findings were published last week in JAMA Psychiatry.

The study, which was authored by Johns Hopkins postdoctoral fellow Yuelong Ji and colleagues, the team measured the biomarkers of acetaminophen and two of its metabolic byproducts in umbilical cord blood samples from 996 individual births.

Compared to the group with the lowest amount of acetaminophen exposure, the children in the middle third group were about 2.26 times more likely to have an ADHD diagnosis and 2.14 times more likely to have an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis. Those with the highest levels of exposure were associated with 2.86 times the risk of ADHD and 3.62 times the risk for autism spectrum disorder, compared to those with the lowest exposure.


So in this particular case, it wasn't even just a simple correlation, it was a linear correlation. (which, alone still isn't 100% proof, but it does strengthen the possibility of a causal relationship)

In this case, they broke the test subjects out into 3 groups (low exposure, medium exposure, high exposure)

The fact that the medium exposure group was 2 times more likely to have a diagnosis later on, and the high exposure group was 3-4 times more likely (compared to the low exposure group) would indicate that it's worth looking into.

BPPLEE said:

You haven't seen the women on Tik Tok and Twitter who are doing just that I take it

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I just rolled my eyes at those ladies.

Frankly, ANYONE who trolls people (including the president) gets eye rolls from me.