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Multiple victims in Michigan church shooting; church on fire

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There was never a report that this man lived with a dead body.

I was sure I saw that. I'll have to check,

Okay I went back and looked and it was likely just a different story that I thought was the same one. This was my mistake then.

He's still nuts though.
 
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I was sure I saw that. I'll have to check,

Okay I went back and looked and it was likely just a different story that I thought was the same one. This was my mistake then.

He's still nuts though.
Whats the evidence that he was suffering from some mental illness?
 
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Let me get this straight. So the solution to our culture of violence does not involve guns but involved mental health as the fix. But medications but now they want us to believe it is the medications we give people with mental health problems to help them is what leads them to violence? :swoon: In what world does that make sense? Guess we'll have to give them Tylenol...no wait...there is a problem with that, too. Looks like there is no hope for the school children.
 
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Let me get this straight. So the solution to our culture of violence does not involve guns but involved mental health as the fix. But medications but now they want us to believe it is the medications we give people with mental health problems to help them is what leads them to violence? :swoon: In what world does that make sense? Guess we'll have to give them Tylenol...no wait...there is a problem with that, too. Looks like there is no hope for the school children.
Don’t think about it too hard. “Address mental health!” Is the latest non argument thrown out to avoid having to discuss firearm availability in the US.
 
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Don’t think about it too hard. “Address mental health!” Is the latest non argument thrown out to avoid having to discuss firearm availability in the US.

Firearms are a constitutional right. You don't get to remove those from people, they are God given and it is to government to protect that right, not to dole it out.

Do you think any sane person murders unarmed innocent people in a meeting? Is that your definition of sanity?Do you not think such displays of insanity deserves to be addressed more effectively?
 
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Do you think any sane person murders unarmed innocent people in a meeting? Is that your definition of sanity?Do you not think such displays of insanity deserves to be addressed more effectively?
Yes, clear thinking stable people sometimes do these kind of crimes.
 
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Firearms are a constitutional right.

The constitution is a legal document not holy writ.

You don't get to remove those from people, they are God given and it is to government to protect that right, not to dole it out.
Adding in the theological noise only makes changing things that are not serving us well harder.
Do you think any sane person murders unarmed innocent people in a meeting?

Yes.

Now, about the “buh mental health!”, what measures do you support to help remedy that issue?
 
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Firearms are a constitutional right. You don't get to remove those from people, they are God given and it is to government to protect that right, not to dole it out.

Constitutions can be amended. I missed the part in the Bible where God said it is our right to have guns. Chapter & verse?
 
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Constitutions can be amended. I missed the part in the Bible where God said it is our right to have guns. Chapter & verse?
Two Corinthians 14:88
 
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Firearms are a constitutional right. You don't get to remove those from people, they are God given and it is to government to protect that right, not to dole it out.
The 2nd amendment was definitely given by the 1st Congress and ratified by the states. It was not given by God.
 
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If they aren't following the teachings of the Christian faith they cannot be called Christian.
That's nonsensical. If what you said were true then there would be no such people as Christians.
 
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And he didn't have that stance prior to the relationship with a Mormon woman that went badly.
The link confirmed that he was a regular church goer.
 
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