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3 dead, 8 injured in shooting at American Fish Company in Southport, NC

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rjs330 said:
I dont think that is the case. I think the majority of people would support doing something to get these people help so they aren’t going around murdering people.

Ive long been a proponent of the lock em up solution along with forced medicalization. If you refuse to take your drugs then off you go. If drugs wont work on you then off you go. You aren't safe enough to be in the general public.
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Not sure. Once maga sees a Trump yard sign hunter type guy as a "victim" of these pre-emptive measures, most support for this kind of intervention will evaporate.

It could go over better if the program is limited to trans people or hair color changers. That would hardly be sufficient tho, as we've seen.
 
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After his injuries, he was diagnosed with schizophrenia and experienced bouts of disorganised thinking.

That’s the smoking gun. Another heinous crime committed by someone with mental illness harming innocents. Remember what the man on FOX suggested. Forced euthanasia. Don’t assume the public won’t get behind it if incidents continue. We’ll see if someone starts to complain.

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The other, arguably more humane option might be funding mental health supports
 
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durangodawood said:
Not sure. Once maga sees a Trump yard sign hunter type guy as a "victim" of these pre-emptive measures, most support for this kind of intervention will evaporate.
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Why? I mean the person has had a mental health diagnosis and is dangerous. Why would this be a problem?
 
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durangodawood said:
When a tiny minority of them lash out with some horrible violence, the rest of us find that more acceptable than the cost of treatment. Those are our values.
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Like with gun ownership.
 
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Why would this be a problem?
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Because 'money'. A huge amount of American problems would be solved if the people profiting from the status quo were removed from the equation. But that won't happen because it is the corporate and political class that is in charge and reaping those profits.
 
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rjs330 said:
Why? I mean the person has had a mental health diagnosis and is dangerous. Why would this be a problem?
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People wouldnt trust it. Guy looks and believes too much like "us" to be crazy. "I could be next".
 
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durangodawood said:
People wouldnt trust it. Guy looks and believes too much like "us" to be crazy. "I could be next".
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Having worked with a LOT of mentally ill people including those who have been violent its not that difficult to see which ones need to be put into an institution for their and the publics safety.

Sure some would still slip through the cracks, but it would eliminate a LOT of violence and mass shootings.

Its either that or get rid of all the guns as I have proposed.
 
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rjs330 said:
Having worked with a LOT of mentally ill people including those who have been violent its not that difficult to see which ones need to be put into an institution for their and the publics safety.

Sure some would still slip through the cracks, but it would eliminate a LOT of violence and mass shootings.

Its either that or get rid of all the guns as I have proposed.
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I do agree thats worth doing
 
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