Trump to designate antifa a 'major terrorist organization'

durangodawood · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
It also doesn't mean they don't.

Bandidos operating like Hells Angels does not mean that antifa operates like either. This is basic logic stuff.

Chesterton said:
Here's some more fascinating trivia I learned: if you publicly ask a mafia-like motorcycle club if they are a mafia-like motorcycle club, they will say "no, we're just a motorcycle club".

I've played a lot of motorcycle rally shows. Those 1% er types have dirtier pants than the others on average.

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2025

durangodawood said:
Bandidos operating like Hells Angels does not mean that antifa operates like either. This is basic logic stuff.

Doughnuts and pizzas both being round does not mean they're both made of dough. But they are.

GoldenBoy89 · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
Dutch parliament wants to follow U.S. example and label Antifa a terrorist organization

A majority in the lower house of the Dutch parliament wants the Netherlands to follow the United States’ lead and designate the far-left Antifa movement as a terrorist organization. A motion to that effect by Lidewij de Vos (FvD), Caroline van der Plas (BBB), and Geert Wilders (PVV) was passed...

nltimes.nl

The fact it is supported by several far right groups says plenty.

durangodawood · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
Doughnuts and pizzas both being round does not mean they're both made of dough. But they are.

Your problem was you said: because I ate a round pizza the other day therefore Im pretty sure donuts are round.

Freth · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
Doughnuts and pizzas both being round does not mean they're both made of dough. But they are.

You had to bring up donuts didn't you? I'm diabetic, but I love donuts, they just don't love me.

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
The fact it is supported by several far right groups says plenty.

That is so 2024. Name-calling - far right, fascist, Nazi - we're not afraid of it. It has zero effect.

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2025

durangodawood said:
Your problem was you said: because I ate a round pizza the other day therefore Im pretty sure donuts are round.

I said that?

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2025

Freth said:
You had to bring up donuts didn't you? I'm diabetic, but I love donuts, they just don't love me.

GoldenBoy89 · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
That is so 2024. Name-calling - far right, fascist, Nazi - we're not afraid of it. It has zero effect.

It’s a simple description. Why so defensive?

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
It’s a simple description. Why so defensive?

Because you didn't use it as a simple description. You used it as an accusation that something nefarious is going on.

durangodawood · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
I said that?

Well you have to swap in antifa and mc clubs for pizza and donuts.

Gosh that sounds uncannily natural.

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2025

durangodawood said:
Well you have to swap in antifa and mc clubs for pizza and donuts.

Gosh that sounds uncannily natural.

All I did was agree with the other poster that it is possible to have an organization which doesn't much appear to be organized. Which makes it hard to trace the leadership. You know, so Mr. Soros can sleep well at night.

durangodawood · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
All I did was agree with the other poster that it is possible to have an organization which doesn't much appear to be organized. Which makes it hard to trace the leadership. You know, so Mr. Soros can sleep well at night.

Well then we all agree. It is possible.

GoldenBoy89 · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
Because you didn't use it as a simple description. You used it as an accusation that something nefarious is going on.

Is it my fault Trump’s idea is supported by the far right in Europe? I thought you weren’t offended anymore.

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
Is it my fault Trump’s idea is supported by the far right in Europe? I thought you weren’t offended anymore.

They're not the far right. They're normal people who are opposed to violence.

prodromos · Sep 19, 2025

Chesterton said:
They're not the far right. They're normal people who are opposed to violence.

It's an honest mistake for them to make. They are so far left that anyone who is centre or slightly right is "far" right from their perspective.

ThatRobGuy · Sep 19, 2025

durangodawood said:
No. Because your experience leads you to learn the Bandidos operate like the Hells Angels (or other mafias) does not mean antifa does. Antifa is a protest org and not a mafia enterprise. The incentives and personality types are totally different.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/

CNN did a piece about them back in 2017

While there's no national-level leader (at least not one that's been identified), the same is true of the Hells Angels.

Notice the language CNN uses:

In speaking to Antifa leaders across the country, CNN found very few who would take off their masks. Indeed, it took months to track down members willing to share their stories.

And their methods are often violent. Antifa leaders admit they’re willing to physically attack anyone who employs violence against them or who condones racism – as long as force is used in the name of eradicating hatred.

And then there's also this:

Forming An Antifa Group

Forming An Antifa Group 2017 An alternative version can be read here: https://itsgoingdown.org/forming-an-antifa-group-a-manual/

theanarchistlibrary.org

And if you notice, they cite their organizing resource as
Organizing Resources
Torch Network

Which is the link I provider earlier

https://torch-antifa.org/chapters/

Which, the same group just posted this "tasteful" article in their feed

Charlie Kirk: There’s More Comin’!

Charlie Kirk does not deserve our respect or goodwill, no matter how much the mainstream narrative tries to legitimize him. For the rest of us, his departure is a reminder that we will be tested in the days ahead. Doing nothing is not an option.

idavox.com

So clearly they have some "primary organizers" who are just leaders by a different name.

At the very least, there are people wearing the Antifa "colors" that do have some shot callers.

And naturally, they went with a domain registration service that allows for you to hide parts of your identity.

However, I am able to see that the number they registered with is a burner phone number acquired through Twilio (a San Fran elastic sip trunk provider), and the city of the person who registered it was Rose City Park (a portland oregon neighborhood)

Now, I do have a way I can get at that information if I felt ambitious enough to go down the rabbit hole. They use a domestic registrar service (instead of an off-shore service tisk tisk if they're really trying to be "badass anonymous" types)

WHOIS history data will ultimately provide this (as initial registration, and application for privacy redaction are two separate transactions, so the initial transaction will always have the info of the person who registered it)

Through work, we do have API access that would allow me to fire up PostMan and send in a request for the full history data and take a gander at the json payload that comes back.

Oompa Loompa · Saturday at 10:35 AM

GoldenBoy89 said:
No, I need to see the Navy shelling Berkeley.

Designating Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Section 1. Antifa as a Terrorist Threat. Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States

www.whitehouse.gov

Inching closer to naval guns.

Oompa Loompa · Monday at 8:10 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Designating Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Section 1. Antifa as a Terrorist Threat. Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States

www.whitehouse.gov

Inching closer to naval guns.

Trump administration authorizes 200 National Guard members for Portland deployment

State leaders say they’ve received a letter from federal officials authorizing Oregon National Guard members to “perform federal functions” for 60 days.

www.opb.org

Perhaps Columbia University is not the primary target. Portland is in the crosshairs. All Trump has to do is just send a few soldiers to an ICE detention facility, and Antifa terrorists will just come to them, begging to be arrested.

ViaCrucis · Monday at 9:19 PM

Valletta said:
"Antifa is terrible," the president said. "These aren't protests, these are crimes that they're doing. They're throwing bricks at cars of the ICE and Border Patrol. … They're professional agitators. … They should be put in jail. What they're doing to this country is really subversive."

Trump to designate antifa a 'major terrorist organization'

President Donald Trump designated antifa a terrorist organization via Truth Social, recommending investigations into those funding the left-wing activist movement.

www.foxnews.com

Anti-fascism is simply the default state for all reasonable people who believe in basic human dignity.

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