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1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. This is talking about the first resurrection and those who after the white throne judgement. Only then you can't sin no more.

Let's take a look at Jesus for an example of born of God, and of we know Jesus did no sin. But let's read that in 1 Peter 2: 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Let's go to John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Take a look at the 12th verse. It states, "The ones that received him he gave them power to become the sons of God.” Remember that you will only become a Son of God if you follow His word. Look at the 14th verse. Notice it says he is the only begotten of the Father.

What does only mean? If He (Jesus) is the only one born of God how can anyone make the statement they are born again. Only means only. If you are born of God you will not be able to sin any longer. Read this carefully in I John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Can anyone say they commit no sin? No! If you are born (born again) into the God family you must be a spirit being. Here is another verse stating Jesus is the only begotten son.


So when Jesus died and born again he had a different Body and can do other things like pop up from nowhere, etc. Look at what 1 Peter says in Ch 1: 23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. Paul confirm what Peter says the same thing in 1 Corthinan 15: 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Let's go into Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. 28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further. 29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them. 30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. 31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Look at verse 31, once they realized that it was Jesus they spoke with, what happen? He vanished out of their sight. Remember in John chapter 3 and verse 8. The Lord gave an example of how a spirit would look. He likened a spirit to the wind.( John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.)

Paul says in Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

And when will this take place?

Again in I Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, ando the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

At the last trump, and not a moment before.
Agreed.
I might emphasize that the part of us that cannot sin is the part that was born again. That is our spirit. Our body and soul are capable of leading us into sin, but not our spirit. If we walk according to the inclinations of our reborn spirit, then we will not sin because there is no sin in our born against spirit, it is born of God and has the seed of God. So I would say 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 5:18 speak about our born-again spirit, not the entire person. Spirit, Soul, and Body.

Gill also makes a note:
" but rather the meaning is... he is born of God, or that which is born of God in him, the new man, or new creature, cannot sin; for that is pure and holy; there is nothing sinful in it, nor can anything that is sinful come out of it, or be done by it; it is the workmanship of the Holy Spirit of God;



Jesus differentiated between spirit birth and whole body birth:
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit" (Jn 3:6).



1 John 3:
9 Everything generated out from the divine does not make sin because God's seed lives within him. Since he is born of God, he is incapable of sin.

There is often an argument that says born-again believers do not habitually sin.

Yet this does not make sense because the verse says we do not sin because we are of God and have His seed in us.
Their argument falls apart because this would mean God sins, albeit not habitually!
No, God does not sin at all. And if we follow our reborn spirit, we will never sin either.
 
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Let me show you the first resurrection with all the Saints meet the lord (Jesus) in the air and come back to the Earth. Keep in mind this is when you are born again when you come back from the resurrection of life like Jesus did then you would be born again into the God family.

Let’s go into 1 Thessalonians 4: 13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

If you sleep in Jesus it means you have done his will
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Lets keep reading and see how Jesus bring the saints with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

This verse just told us that some will be alive to be in this first resurrection, the coming of Jesus, and there are those who will be asleep. Notice they asleep and not in heaven chilling and watching over people, smiling at all this hell going on.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Notice: Only the dead in Christ will rise first, but the Lord has descended...meaning coming down

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Notice those that were asleep or dead rise first, then those which are alive and remain rise next, to meet the Lord in the air, and altogether we come up in the first resurrection.

Paul also said in 1 Thessalonians 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. So let's see where Paul got this from.
We see that being born again will happen at the last trump and we will be change from corruptible to incorruption. Also we learned a mystery and that's all will not die, but will be changed.

Paul says in Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

And when will this take place?

Paul say in I Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

At the last trump, and not a moment before. This is when you Born again and cannot sin.
AND you quoted many good verse and never explained what BORN AGAIN in. JOHN 3;3 means ??

AND maybe you. may like John. 3:5. , except a man be. BORN. of WATER and the SPIRIT. he cannot. ENTER. the in. the

Kingdom. of God. !!

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Agreed.
I might emphasize that the part of us that cannot sin is the part that was born again. That is our spirit. Our body and soul are capable of leading us into sin, but not our spirit. If we walk according to the inclinations of our reborn spirit, then we will not sin because there is no sin in our born against spirit, it is born of God and has the seed of God. So I would say 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 5:18 speak about our born-again spirit, not the entire person. Spirit, Soul, and Body.

Gill also makes a note:
" but rather the meaning is... he is born of God, or that which is born of God in him, the new man, or new creature, cannot sin; for that is pure and holy; there is nothing sinful in it, nor can anything that is sinful come out of it, or be done by it; it is the workmanship of the Holy Spirit of God;



Jesus differentiated between spirit birth and whole body birth:
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit" (Jn 3:6).



1 John 3:
9 Everything generated out from the divine does not make sin because God's seed lives within him. Since he is born of God, he is incapable of sin.

There is often an argument that says born-again believers do not habitually sin.

Yet this does not make sense because the verse says we do not sin because we are of God and have His seed in us.
Their argument falls apart because this would mean God sins, albeit not habitually!
No, God does not sin at all. And if we follow our reborn spirit, we will never sin either.
And what of any ones BODY. is Born again ??

# 1 His two Legs. ?

# 2 OR. maybe his two. LEGS ?

#. Maybe. his two EARS. ??

And are you real. serious ??

And Acts 2:36 is speaking to Israel. , and not to the Body of Christ. and can. you explain Rom10:12-13 means. as you. are having FUN. !!

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1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. This is talking about the first resurrection and those who after the white throne judgement. Only then you can't sin no more.

Let's take a look at Jesus for an example of born of God, and of we know Jesus did no sin. But let's read that in 1 Peter 2: 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Let's go to John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Take a look at the 12th verse. It states, "The ones that received him he gave them power to become the sons of God.” Remember that you will only become a Son of God if you follow His word. Look at the 14th verse. Notice it says he is the only begotten of the Father.

What does only mean? If He (Jesus) is the only one born of God how can anyone make the statement they are born again. Only means only. If you are born of God you will not be able to sin any longer. Read this carefully in I John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Can anyone say they commit no sin? No! If you are born (born again) into the God family you must be a spirit being. Here is another verse stating Jesus is the only begotten son.


So when Jesus died and born again he had a different Body and can do other things like pop up from nowhere, etc. Look at what 1 Peter says in Ch 1: 23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. Paul confirm what Peter says the same thing in 1 Corthinan 15: 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Let's go into Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. 28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further. 29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them. 30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. 31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Look at verse 31, once they realized that it was Jesus they spoke with, what happen? He vanished out of their sight. Remember in John chapter 3 and verse 8. The Lord gave an example of how a spirit would look. He likened a spirit to the wind.( John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.)

Paul says in Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

And when will this take place?

Again in I Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

At the last trump, and not a moment before.
And in 1 John 5:18 says. NOT //. OU. and is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and means NEVERRRRR. ever , ever

SIN AGAIN. and you. believe that Christ will. CONDONE what you. mean ?? You. are KIDDINGGGG. , RIGHT. and just

keep on sinning as God will pardon every sin and you believe anyone would STOP SINNING. ??

And why not read 1. Cor 5:1-5 and see what Christ did to a BELIEVER. THAT WOULD NOT STOP SINNING ??

Christ killed him. in. verse 5. !!

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And in 1 John 5:18 says. NOT //. OU. and is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and means NEVERRRRR. ever , ever

SIN AGAIN. and you. believe that Christ will. CONDONE what you. mean ?? You. are KIDDINGGGG. , RIGHT. and just

keep on sinning as God will pardon every sin and you believe anyone would STOP SINNING. ??

And why not read 1. Cor 5:1-5 and see what Christ did to a BELIEVER. THAT WOULD NOT STOP SINNING ??

Christ killed him. in. verse 5. !!

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Your reply seems to be as if you didn't understand anything I wrote. SMH! It's one thing for a person to not agree, but at least understand what I'm saying, at least.
 
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AND you quoted many good verse and never explained what BORN AGAIN in. JOHN 3;3 means ??

AND maybe you. may like John. 3:5. , except a man be. BORN. of WATER and the SPIRIT. he cannot. ENTER. the in. the

Kingdom. of God. !!

dan p
Peace in Jesus name
 
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