Has Kirk's Death Prompted You?

1Tonne said:

First Peter 3:15 says that we should preach with gentleness and respect. So, we should not be yelling unless there are a large crowd who are listening and for everyone to hear, you need to speak with more volume. But be wise in your tone.

Also, you said that God plants the seeds. I think you got that wrong (Probably an accident). We plant the seed, which is the spoken Gospel, then it is God who creates the growth.
We should scatter the seed in as many places as possible.

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Same thing

How about we acknowledge that there are Good, patriotic, Christian people on both sides without dehumanizing any of them.

If we can’t do that, then we are half the problem.

Akita Suggagaki said:

How about we acknowledge that there are Good, patriotic, Christian people on both sides without dehumanizing any of them.

If we can’t do that, then we are half the problem.

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Are you referring to the main post? If not, can you explain?

1Tonne said:

Are you referring to the main post? If not, can you explain?

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Yes the main post.

Pepperdoodle said:

Charlie Kirk wasn't anymore special than anyone else and he knew that it seems.
We all have the opportunity to be a Charlie whether in person or online.
I didn't follow the guy, but his stuff has been in news feeds more since he was murdered.
I'm angry that a Left leaning person thought the way to handle opinions he didn't like was to murder the person.
That's very dangerous!!
The murderer thought silencing Kirk's voice would take care of that or help, but it's only hurt that expectation.
We need to keep speaking the truth, yes in love and compassion when possible, but speak it and not let them, mostly the Left leaning, shut truth down!!

Whether you were a fan of Charlie's or not, has this prompted you to be more outspoken?

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It's prompted me not to care anymore, they are clearly going to kill us no matter how nice and kind we are. So I don't care anymore about being kind and understood. Just about doing and saying what's right.

Hazelelponi said:

It's prompted me not to care anymore, they are clearly going to kill us no matter how nice and kind we are. So I don't care anymore about being kind and understood. Just about doing and saying what's right.

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Don`t let evil get you down. Jesus talked about these times. Prepare.

Pepperdoodle said:

has this prompted you to be more outspoken?

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To pray . . .

and to evaluate . . .

"Test all things; hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

We have really bought into these problem saturated Left vs Right narratives. We have been manipulated into seeing only the polarities and choosing one side as “”us” and the other as “them”. I refuse to play! The reality is we are all just people. And mist if us not so very far apart. Don’t let anyone sow or validate hate in your heart.

There are people who can push what they claim is Bible truth. But they are not being examples to children so children grow up knowing how to love. And ones who do not know how to love can get into all sorts of things.

One example of this is how in the United States there has been a "fifty-percent divorce rate" in marriages of unbelievers . . . and of Christians. That can mean at least half of Christian households have children who have not been fed how to relate in a close relationship.

However, Jesus is able to save anyone and change us into His way of loving. And so, as He does this with us, we have hope for any person, if He has proven Himself with us.

Pepperdoodle said:

I agree with what Hazelelponi said above.

It became Left vs Right, us vs them , etc more so when Obama became President.
The Left amped things up then and it's only gotten worse since.
Most of them don't care and haven't for a while.
I understand your refusal to play. I took a break from social media for a year.
It was bad when I left and it hadn't improved when I came back.

Of course we are all people.
I think you are wrong in thinking we aren't far apart.
The Left is pretty much polar opposite of the Right.
Most of the Left are for killing growing babies in the womb, most of the RIght aren't.
Most of the Left embrace trans fantasy, most of the Right don't.
etc, etc, etc.
Hate sows and validate's itself, just like we saw when a Left leaning murderer killed Charlie.
Just like we've seen at the table of The (biased) View.
Just like we've seen from those who have celebrated Charlie beng murdered.

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You have clearly chosen a side and fully consumed it’s narrative. Are you really satisfied with that black and white perspective?

Hazelelponi said:

It's prompted me not to care anymore, they are clearly going to kill us no matter how nice and kind we are. So I don't care anymore about being kind and understood. Just about doing and saying what's right.

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Agreed. We should not care anymore for our lives. We should lay them down just as Jesus did. It is Christ who lives in us, and we should not squash that. We should speak out about it and it should overflow.

Akita Suggagaki said:

We have really bought into these problem saturated Left vs Right narratives. We have been manipulated into seeing only the polarities and choosing one side as “”us” and the other as “them”. I refuse to play! The reality is we are all just people. And mist if us not so very far apart. Don’t let anyone sow or validate hate in your heart.

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-The right is against abortion. The left wants it to continue.
-The right is for 1 man and 1 woman in marriage. The left wants to redefine and denigrate marriage.
-The right believes homosexuality is sin. The left celebrates it and creates special holidays and parades.
-The right seeks to protect children’s innocence. The left pushes gender confusion, drag shows, and sexual content onto children.
-The right wants parental authority in raising children. The left encourages the state and schools to override parents.
-The right believes in accountability and lawfulness. The left excuses crime and protects criminals over victims.
-The right seeks freedom of speech and religion. The left works to silence biblical truth as “hate speech.”
-The right upholds the value of life. The left supports euthanasia and devalues the elderly and disabled.
-The right sees gender as God-created, male and female. The left pushes gender ideology and dozens of self-made identities.
-The right values self-responsibility. The left promotes dependency on government.
-The right honors biblical creation. The left promotes evolution and rejects the Creator.

As a Christian, I know where I stand. And I know what Charlie would think about this list too.

Akita Suggagaki said:

You have clearly chosen a side and fully consumed it’s narrative. Are you at satisfied with that black and white perspective?

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You are clearly choosing to stand in the grey. So, neither hot nor cold.

You know what the Bible says, yet you excuse, justify, and even sympathise with those who openly rebel against God. That is not love, it is compromise. Isaiah 5:20 warns: “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.” By refusing to call sin what it is, you are siding with the world and against God.
James 4:4 says it plainly: “Whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” You cannot serve two masters. You cannot wear the name of Christ while defending what He condemns. To condone evil is to share in it (Romans 1:32).
So no, this is not just “black and white perspective.” This is about obedience versus rebellion, light versus darkness, Christ versus the world. And right now, you are standing in dangerous territory by trying to straddle both.

Beyond monochrome thinking, there's a rainbow of colors.

Of course, the rainbow only looks like grey to those in darkness.

Gregory Thompson said:

Beyond monochrome thinking, there's a rainbow of colors.

Of course, the rainbow only looks like grey to those in darkness.

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The rainbow is not a symbol of man’s self-expression or ‘nuance.’ It is God’s covenant sign that He will not again destroy the earth by flood (Genesis 9:13–16). It is a reminder of His mercy, but also of His judgment. To twist that symbol into an excuse for compromise with sin is blasphemy.

You speak of 'colors' as though rejecting sin is narrow, but Scripture says light and darkness cannot mix (2 Corinthians 6:14). Jesus Himself said, 'Let your yes be yes and your no be no' (Matthew 5:37). That is black and white truth, not grey. Truth is clear; only lies blur it.

And as for 'darkness,' Scripture says those who condone evil and call it good are the ones in darkness (Isaiah 5:20). If you celebrate sin or defend it, you are not walking in light but deceiving yourself (1 John 1:6).

So no, I will not join you in your rainbow-colored deception. I would rather stand in the light of Christ’s truth than in the grey fog of compromise.

1Tonne said:

The rainbow is not a symbol of man’s self-expression or ‘nuance.’ It is God’s covenant sign that He will not again destroy the earth by flood (Genesis 9:13–16). It is a reminder of His mercy, but also of His judgment. To twist that symbol into an excuse for compromise with sin is blasphemy.

You speak of 'colors' as though rejecting sin is narrow, but Scripture says light and darkness cannot mix (2 Corinthians 6:14). Jesus Himself said, 'Let your yes be yes and your no be no' (Matthew 5:37). That is black and white truth, not grey. Truth is clear; only lies blur it.

And as for 'darkness,' Scripture says those who condone evil and call it good are the ones in darkness (Isaiah 5:20). If you celebrate sin or defend it, you are not walking in light but deceiving yourself (1 John 1:6).

So no, I will not join you in your rainbow-colored deception. I would rather stand in the light of Christ’s truth than in the grey fog of compromise.

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Everything that disagrees with the opinion of 1Tonne = Deception and lies.

Everything that agrees with the opinion of 1Tonne = light, truth

Everything that does not include the agenda of 1Tonne = Grey, foggy, compromise.

Conclusion: 1Tonne does not play well with others.

1Tonne said:

Agreed. We should not care anymore for our lives. We should lay them down just as Jesus did. It is Christ who lives in us, and we should not squash that. We should speak out about it and it should overflow.

-The right is against abortion. The left wants it to continue.
-The right is for 1 man and 1 woman in marriage. The left wants to redefine and denigrate marriage.
-The right believes homosexuality is sin. The left celebrates it and creates special holidays and parades.
-The right seeks to protect children’s innocence. The left pushes gender confusion, drag shows, and sexual content onto children.
-The right wants parental authority in raising children. The left encourages the state and schools to override parents.
-The right believes in accountability and lawfulness. The left excuses crime and protects criminals over victims.
-The right seeks freedom of speech and religion. The left works to silence biblical truth as “hate speech.”
-The right upholds the value of life. The left supports euthanasia and devalues the elderly and disabled.
-The right sees gender as God-created, male and female. The left pushes gender ideology and dozens of self-made identities.
-The right values self-responsibility. The left promotes dependency on government.
-The right honors biblical creation. The left promotes evolution and rejects the Creator.

As a Christian, I know where I stand. And I know what Charlie would think about this list too.

You are clearly choosing to stand in the grey. So, neither hot nor cold.

You know what the Bible says, yet you excuse, justify, and even sympathise with those who openly rebel against God. That is not love, it is compromise. Isaiah 5:20 warns: “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.” By refusing to call sin what it is, you are siding with the world and against God.
James 4:4 says it plainly: “Whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” You cannot serve two masters. You cannot wear the name of Christ while defending what He condemns. To condone evil is to share in it (Romans 1:32).
So no, this is not just “black and white perspective.” This is about obedience versus rebellion, light versus darkness, Christ versus the world. And right now, you are standing in dangerous territory by trying to straddle both.

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You have me all wrong and yet are eager to judge me and quick to condemn me. My position is that when all is considered the Right is no better than the Left. And yet there is still some good in them both. I do not take the extremes as being the norm. Those who do, contribute to the violently polarized problem.

Pepperdoodle said:

What do you consider yourself specifically, politically?

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I am independent. It depends on the issue.

Gregory Thompson said:

Everything that disagrees with the opinion of 1Tonne = Deception and lies.

Everything that agrees with the opinion of 1Tonne = light, truth

Everything that does not include the agenda of 1Tonne = Grey, foggy, compromise.

Conclusion: 1Tonne does not play well with others.

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What one of these, then, do you think I have wrong:
-Are you for abortion—the killing of unborn children?
-Do you believe marriage can be redefined and denigrated instead of remaining as God ordained, one man and one woman?
-Is homosexuality a sin, as Scripture says, or do you excuse it?
-Should mentally ill men be allowed to dress in drag and perform sexual acts in front of children?
-Do you believe the government should raise our kids instead of parents?
-Is it good to excuse crime and protect criminals rather than victims?
-Do you think those who preach the Bible should be silenced or punished?
-Is it acceptable for someone to take their own life, instead of trusting God?
-Should children be told they can change their sex, against God’s design?
-Do you believe it’s good to make people dependent on the government instead of working with their own hands?
-Is it right to belittle or twist God’s Word to fit culture?
-Do you believe Christians should compromise with the world, or stand firm in truth no matter the cost?

NOTE: I do not think you will answer. If you do, it will be a statement that avoids answering these questions.

Akita Suggagaki said:

You have me all wrong and yet are eager to judge me and quick to condemn me. My position is that when all is considered the Right is no better than the Left. And yet there is still some good in them both. I do not take the extremes as being the norm. Those who do, contribute to the violently polarized problem.

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I do not think that the left and the right are the same. If they were, then they would be working together. The right is not perfect, but looking at it from a Christian perspective, the right is a lot better than the left by a long shot.