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Tom Homan Explains to Bill Maher Why We Can’t Give Amnesty to Illegals – And Gets Applause From Maher’s Audience (VIDEO)

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Ronald Reagan did it. Was it controversial when he did it?

The immigrants I know who became legal through the Reagan amnesty have led very productive, exemplary lives. Their children have gone to college, started businesses, and have totally assimilated into American society.
 
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Ronald Reagan did it. Was it controversial when he did it?

The immigrants I know who became legal through the Reagan amnesty have led very productive, exemplary lives. Their children have gone to college, started businesses, and have totally assimilated into American society.

Really? Ronald Reagan? The guy who wore a tan suit just like Barack Hussain Obama?
 
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The irony of Tom Homan harping on about the US being a nation of laws just after Trump forced the FBI to drop a bribery investigation into him is not lost on me.
 
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Exactly. Are we a nation of laws or not?
I don't think you should trust in anything this guy says about being a nation of laws.
 
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Did Homan say they could come in if they slipped him a bag with $50k in cash?

$50K? What is this, amateur hour? No wonder the case was dropped.
 
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definitely rookie numbers
Yes, and those guys in law enforcement make a lot of money over a lifetime. Under the Biden regime plenty of charges were brought without real evidence to back up those charges. The Biden people still didn't charge him.
 
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Yes, and those guys in law enforcement make a lot of money over a lifetime. Under the Biden regime plenty of charges were brought without real evidence to back up those charges. The Biden people still didn't charge him.
lol k. After all that crying you did about corruption under Biden, it’s good to see applying your values so consistently. :oldthumbsup:
 
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Yes, and those guys in law enforcement make a lot of money over a lifetime. Under the Biden regime plenty of charges were brought without real evidence to back up those charges. The Biden people still didn't charge him.
The border czar man took money and the cops were waiting for the “payoff”, when Kash Patel called and asked why there was an open investigation into an appointee of the President, then, suddenly, there wasn’t?

That’s some prime-grade-A swamping, there, that is!
 
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The border czar man took money and the cops were waiting for the “payoff”, when Kash Patel called and asked why there was an open investigation into an appointee of the President, then, suddenly, there wasn’t?

That’s some prime-grade-A swamping, there, that is!
So you say, as I said, the Biden people didn't even try to prosecute him. In my country we have what is called a presumption of innocence. It's a core value under our United States Constitution.
 
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What's the argument here? That Homan should stop enforcing immigration laws?
No, we're mocking him for being a bigger crook than the foreigners he pursues.
 
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Supporters of President Trump's immigration policy often claim, "We are a nation of laws" and argue against allowing those who break the law to remain in the country.

Laws in any nation are not fixed; they evolve over time. For example, there were periods when slave ownership was legal, women could not vote, and alcohol sales were banned. Recently, decisions about women's choices have shifted from federal to state control. As our understanding of society changes, so do our laws to better reflect its needs.

The United States has never had a truly comprehensive immigration law throughout its history; rather, its approach has been piecemeal, responding to specific situations as they arose. Examples include the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, the establishment of Ellis Island and related quotas in 1891, the Immigration Act of 1917 which introduced literacy tests, and the Bracero Program during World War II. These measures were designed to address immediate needs rather than to create an overarching policy that defines the nation's identity through its immigration system.

America needs clear, comprehensive immigration laws that reflect our future goals. However, compromise is lacking: Democrat has no clear immigration policy, while Republican seeks to deport 15 million who violated the law.

Over 1.5 million undocumented immigrants work in agriculture, approximately 2 million are employed in food processing and the hospitality industry, and nearly half a million work in construction. Supporters of President Trump's immigration policy have not yet explained how this labor forces would be replaced if undocumented workers were deported.

On these forums, when this specific question is raised, proponents of mass deportation often do not respond, possibly because they lack a viable solution to address the issue. It appears that this topic may be deliberately overlooked due to the absence of alternatives. I challenge supporters of President Trump’s immigration policy to clarify how the affected workforce would be replaced, and to discuss the potential impact such measures may have on the US economy.
 
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Supporters of President Trump's immigration policy often claim, "We are a nation of laws" and argue against allowing those who break the law to remain in the country.

Laws in any nation are not fixed; they evolve over time. For example, there were periods when slave ownership was legal, women could not vote, and alcohol sales were banned. Recently, decisions about women's choices have shifted from federal to state control. As our understanding of society changes, so do our laws to better reflect its needs.

The United States has never had a truly comprehensive immigration law throughout its history; rather, its approach has been piecemeal, responding to specific situations as they arose. Examples include the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, the establishment of Ellis Island and related quotas in 1891, the Immigration Act of 1917 which introduced literacy tests, and the Bracero Program during World War II. These measures were designed to address immediate needs rather than to create an overarching policy that defines the nation's identity through its immigration system.

America needs clear, comprehensive immigration laws that reflect our future goals. However, compromise is lacking: Democrat has no clear immigration policy, while Republican seeks to deport 15 million who violated the law.

Over 1.5 million undocumented immigrants work in agriculture, approximately 2 million are employed in food processing and the hospitality industry, and nearly half a million work in construction. Supporters of President Trump's immigration policy have not yet explained how this labor forces would be replaced if undocumented workers were deported.

On these forums, when this specific question is raised, proponents of mass deportation often do not respond, possibly because they lack a viable solution to address the issue. It appears that this topic may be deliberately overlooked due to the absence of alternatives. I challenge supporters of President Trump’s immigration policy to clarify how the affected workforce would be replaced, and to discuss the potential impact such measures may have on the US economy.
Thank you for these thoughts. I found this to be an informative post.

FWIW I think it's actually a moral/immoral issue. For example, when used as a campaign issue to get votes, I see Trump depicting immigrants as criminal elements so as to rationalize the immorality of his position. He can then claim anyone who opposes his position are for crime.

Trump speaks as if he truly believes the genes of most of these immigrants are unworthy of being an American citizen, and therefore his sentiments show a reasoning based on negative prejudice.
 
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Thank you for these thoughts. I found this to be an informative post.

FWIW I think it's actually a moral/immoral issue. For example, when used as a campaign issue to get votes, I see Trump depicting immigrants as criminal elements so as to rationalize the immorality of his position. He can then claim anyone who opposes his position are for crime.

Trump speaks as if he truly believes the genes of most of these immigrants are unworthy of being an American citizen, and therefore his sentiments show a reasoning based on negative prejudice.
This issue is not only moral but also legal, economic, and ideological. There is no simple solution. As a Christian, I believe those who have lived here for years and contributed to society deserve a second chance, even if they broke the law once. Since we are saved by grace, offering others grace should come naturally.

Even without considering morality, there are important economic implications. Removing 25% of immigrants from the workforce would significantly impact the economy—food and home prices would rise, and Americans could lose jobs. Losing 2-4 million people from the economy can stall growth and hinder new job creation.

Removing undocumented immigrants or implementing stricter immigration policies could significantly impact the long-term U.S. economy. If 25% of undocumented immigrants are deported and more restrictive immigration laws are enforced, projections indicate that by 2031—just five years from now—the number of deaths per year in America would surpass the number of births. This trend could result in the U.S. having over five million fewer people by 2050 compared to today, with a larger portion of the population being older and out of the workforce than those who are working.

Last Friday, President Trump signed new H-1B visa requirements which will make harder for company to bring new worker from outside the country. Currently, there are over 1.2 million vacant positions for high-skilled technical jobs. This shortage of technical job openings has persisted for the past 15 years. The main reason is that there are not enough Americans who have enrolled in universities and earned degrees in fields such as engineering, mathematics, finance, computer programming, or genetic engineering. This issue is significant, and attitudes toward higher education have changed. In the late 1990s, over 70% of Americans believed college was important; today, only 49% agree. College enrollment has also declined compared to 25 years ago.

The Trump administration and its supporters focus on American interests and workers. However, questions arise about sustaining the country’s growth without crops available for harvest, doctors in hospitals, or mathematicians in laboratories. There are also considerations regarding how to maintain national progress if the proportion of retirees exceeds that of the younger workforce, or if the population continues to decline over time.

Supporters of President Trump’s immigration policy avoid these questions, insisting only that those who broke the law should be deported.
 
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This issue is not only moral but also legal, economic, and ideological. There is no simple solution. As a Christian, I believe those who have lived here for years and contributed to society deserve a second chance, even if they broke the law once. Since we are saved by grace, offering others grace should come naturally.

Even without considering morality, there are important economic implications. Removing 25% of immigrants from the workforce would significantly impact the economy—food and home prices would rise, and Americans could lose jobs. Losing 2-4 million people from the economy can stall growth and hinder new job creation.

Removing undocumented immigrants or implementing stricter immigration policies could significantly impact the long-term U.S. economy. If 25% of undocumented immigrants are deported and more restrictive immigration laws are enforced, projections indicate that by 2031—just five years from now—the number of deaths per year in America would surpass the number of births. This trend could result in the U.S. having over five million fewer people by 2050 compared to today, with a larger portion of the population being older and out of the workforce than those who are working.

Last Friday, President Trump signed new H-1B visa requirements which will make harder for company to bring new worker from outside the country. Currently, there are over 1.2 million vacant positions for high-skilled technical jobs. This shortage of technical job openings has persisted for the past 15 years. The main reason is that there are not enough Americans who have enrolled in universities and earned degrees in fields such as engineering, mathematics, finance, computer programming, or genetic engineering. This issue is significant, and attitudes toward higher education have changed. In the late 1990s, over 70% of Americans believed college was important; today, only 49% agree. College enrollment has also declined compared to 25 years ago.

The Trump administration and its supporters focus on American interests and workers. However, questions arise about sustaining the country’s growth without crops available for harvest, doctors in hospitals, or mathematicians in laboratories. There are also considerations regarding how to maintain national progress if the proportion of retirees exceeds that of the younger workforce, or if the population continues to decline over time.

Supporters of President Trump’s immigration policy avoid these questions, insisting only that those who broke the law should be deported.
I agree with you; there are economic problems that are exacerbated by bad immigration policy. Despite the complexity of the issues I think that there are solutions to be found. My concern is that the problems are exacerbated and exploited. Like a technological cage is being crafted to make everyone dependent on being connected. The mark of the beast comes to mind, and AI is probably how the image of the beast is given a voice to speak.
 
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So you say, as I said, the Biden people didn't even try to prosecute him. In my country we have what is called a presumption of innocence. It's a core value under our United States Constitution.
You completely underestimate the speed of white-collar crime investigations. The alleged payment took place in Sept 2024 and the investigation apparently continued until it was canceled by the Trump Administration.
 
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