President Trump Files $15 Billion Defamation and Libel Lawsuit Against The New York Times

Valletta · 2025-09-16T02:08:18-0500

"The New York Times has been allowed to freely lie, smear, and defame me for far too long, and that stops, NOW! The suit is being brought in the Great State of Florida."

JUST IN: President Trump Files $15 Billion Defamation and Libel Lawsuit Against The New York Times | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

President Trump late Monday evening announced he filed a $15 billion libel lawsuit against the New York Times and several reporters, including Michael Schmidt.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Like those Trump has previously sued the NY Times can afford to settle. But it is important, it does cost them and it puts them on notice about continuing to print libelous information.

7thKeeper · 2025-09-16T02:32:06-0500

Valletta said:
"The New York Times has been allowed to freely lie, smear, and defame me for far too long, and that stops, NOW! The suit is being brought in the Great State of Florida."

JUST IN: President Trump Files $15 Billion Defamation and Libel Lawsuit Against The New York Times | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

President Trump late Monday evening announced he filed a $15 billion libel lawsuit against the New York Times and several reporters, including Michael Schmidt.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Like those Trump has previously sued the NY Times can afford to settle. But it is important, it does cost them and it puts them on notice about continuing to print libelous information.

So what supposedly libellous things did they post?

Aryeh Jay · 2025-09-16T07:22:23-0500

7thKeeper said:
So what supposedly libellous things did they post?

Clearly the entire failing rag is just a collection of liberal talking points, slander, and unfounded lies.

Servus · 2025-09-16T07:35:09-0500

7thKeeper said:
So what supposedly libellous things did they post?

There's a link in the article to the lawsuit. If you read it, then you just might find out.

Tropical Wilds · 2025-09-16T08:26:21-0500

7thKeeper said:
So what supposedly libellous things did they post?

Nothing. The lawsuit is 85 pages of rhetoric praising him as being master of the universe without articulating how the paper, the listed reporters, or Penguin defamed him, other than he’s big mad about the book written about how he squandered his family’s fortune. He’s just using the courts to preen and posture again.

Only 3 more years.

7thKeeper · 2025-09-16T08:44:21-0500

Tropical Wilds said:
Nothing. The lawsuit is 85 pages of rhetoric praising him as being master of the universe without articulating how the paper, the listed reporters, or Penguin defamed him, other than he’s big mad about the book written about how he squandered his family’s fortune. He’s just using the courts to preen and posture again.

Only 3 more years.

Aah, so another one of those cases where he sues for libel or some such and the lawsuit dies as it gets to court because it's a bunch of nonsense.

7thKeeper · 2025-09-16T08:45:24-0500

Aryeh Jay said:
Clearly the entire failing rag is just a collection of liberal talking points, slander, and unfounded lies.

How very nonspecific and unhelpful. Almost like it's hard to say what the libel's supposed to be...

Tropical Wilds · 2025-09-16T09:19:10-0500

7thKeeper said:
Aah, so another one of those cases where he sues for libel or some such and the lawsuit dies as it gets to court because it's a bunch of nonsense.

Correct. The main goal is just to have 85 pages of glorifying Trump on record with a court, possibly read aloud. Probably a second goal to back door intimidate smaller publications and publishers with less resources into not reporting/writing unfavorably about him. Maybe potentially slowing the court demands on his own payout on his fine.

I think we can infer that since Penguin and an author who wrote a book about him, at least part of it has to do with that.

Basically, he wasn’t made rich in business or by being a President, so he’s hoping that he can sue his way into an income.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-09-16T09:48:31-0500

7thKeeper said:
Aah, so another one of those cases where he sues for libel or some such and the lawsuit dies as it gets to court because it's a bunch of nonsense.

I got through about 3/4 of it and in the entire first half, the only tangible complaint he made was about how one article and the book portrayed the Apprentice people as "discovering" him, when he was akcshually really really famous already.

Anybody IQ above 85 can read the article and clearly see that they're not talking about discovering him from complete obscurity, but rather remaking his image from something of a has-been (at least in celebrity terms) into a shiny, well-honed tycoon.

In the bottom half, they make some somewhat more concrete complaints about allegations of tax evasion on the part of his father and Donald's cheating in school, but in all of the complaints, their citations make it look like the authors wrote a hit piece, but structured their claims in ways that wouldn't constitute libel. (e.g. rather than outright claiming Trump did 'X', they'd say, "Trump's sister says he did 'X'")

Tropical Wilds · 2025-09-16T10:48:23-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
I got through about 3/4 of it and in the entire first half, the only tangible complaint he made was about how one article and the book portrayed the Apprentice people as "discovering" him, when he was akcshually really really famous already.

Anybody IQ above 85 can read the article and clearly see that they're not talking about discovering him from complete obscurity, but rather remaking his image from something of a has-been (at least in celebrity terms) into a shiny, well-honed tycoon.

In the bottom half, they make some somewhat more concrete complaints about allegations of tax evasion on the part of his father and Donald's cheating in school, but in all of the complaints, their citations make it look like the authors wrote a hit piece, but structured their claims in ways that wouldn't constitute libel. (e.g. rather than outright claiming Trump did 'X', they'd say, "Trump's sister says he did 'X'")

God bless you… I read the first 30 pages and AI summed the rest. I couldn’t do it after they got to the segment about how upset he was about The Apprentice.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-09-16T10:54:46-0500

Tropical Wilds said:
God bless you… I read the first 30 pages and AI summed the rest. I couldn’t do it after they got to the segment about how upset he was about The Apprentice.

I hope the lawyers who wrote it charged a boatload, because it's almost entirely ego-stroking bloviation. It seems obvious that the goal is to generate headlines about "Trump Sues NYT" and not to actually win. By the time he loses the lawsuit (and he will unless they just settle), he'll have already won the PR war, at least as far as his side is concerned.

I wonder if this would qualify for a SLAPP countersuit.

Tropical Wilds · 2025-09-16T11:40:04-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
I hope the lawyers who wrote it charged a boatload, because it's almost entirely ego-stroking bloviation. It seems obvious that the goal is to generate headlines about "Trump Sues NYT" and not to actually win. By the time he loses the lawsuit (and he will unless they just settle), he'll have already won the PR war, at least as far as his side is concerned.

I wonder if this would qualify for a SLAPP countersuit.

I just read a thing, but haven’t verified how official it is, that they aren’t going to settle because they did nothing wrong and feel like it sets up a standard that smaller publications pay the price for the hardest.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-09-16T13:34:42-0500

Tropical Wilds said:
I just read a thing, but haven’t verified how official it is, that they aren’t going to settle because they did nothing wrong and feel like it sets up a standard that smaller publications pay the price for the hardest.

Yeah. It's not their first rodeo with Trump lawsuits. This is #3 since 2020, and the other two were both tossed (with him having to pay legal fees on the more recent one). Think it's safe to say they don't plan on settling.

DaisyDay · 2025-09-16T15:08:11-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
I hope the lawyers who wrote it charged a boatload, because it's almost entirely ego-stroking bloviation. It seems obvious that the goal is to generate headlines about "Trump Sues NYT" and not to actually win. By the time he loses the lawsuit (and he will unless they just settle), he'll have already won the PR war, at least as far as his side is concerned.

I wonder if this would qualify for a SLAPP countersuit.

I believe so as Florida has strong anti-SLAPP laws. I hope they sue back.

Also, because Trump filed as a common citizen and not as president, deposition should be very interesting!

ThatRobGuy · 2025-09-16T15:35:09-0500

Valletta said:
Like those Trump has previously sued the NY Times can afford to settle. But it is important, it does cost them and it puts them on notice about continuing to print libelous information.

Actually, it doesn't sound like they can afford the amount he's going for.

Per CNN Business:
The lawsuit demands $15 billion in damages, which exceeds the entire market cap of The New York Times Company

So if there was some sort of pre-court settlement offer, it'd have to be significantly less than what he's asking for.

Defamation civil suits typically involve having to clear a pretty high bar.

If he's looking to affect change with regards to how media outlets run, a better use of time and resources would be to reinstitute this:

Fairness doctrine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That would force all media outlets to devote a portion of time to controversial matters, as well as to dedicate some airtime to contrasting views.

Although, that would mean that some of the "Trump-friendly" media would have to extend the same courtesy to their opponents as well.

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