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Two MN Dem Pols + Spouses Shot in Targeted Shooting
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Break-in reported at home of slain Minnesota state Rep. Melissa Hortman: Police
Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, were shot dead at their home on Saturday.At 8 a.m. Wednesday police said they were alerted to an overnight break-in. They discovered the plywood covering the back window was pried off and the window was broken, police said.
"The home was once again processed by crime scene investigators for evidence of the burglary," police said. "The home appeared to have been searched by an unknown individual; however, the family has indicated that they don’t believe anything is missing."
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MN suspect tied to Christian group that warned of 'demon-possessed politicians'
Reporter Stephanie McCrummen found that Boelter attended a Dallas, Texas, bible college named Christ for the Nations Institute. The college confirmed that Boelter graduated in 1990. It is described as "a prominent training institution for charismatic Christians," according to the report.Post World War II followers "believed that an outpouring of the Holy Spirit was underway, raising up new apostles and prophets and a global End Times army to battle Satanic forces and establish God’s kingdom on Earth."
It was a philosophy rejected by the main Pentecostal church but was embraced and promoted by the Christ for the Nations group. That ultimately became the New Apostolic Reformation, or NAR, which broadcasts its beliefs in "megachurches, global networks of apostles and prophets, and a media ecosystem of online ministries, books, and podcasts, becoming a grassroots engine of the Christian Right."
"He would have been told that actual demonic forces can take hold of culture, political leaders, and entire territories, and thwart God’s kingdom," the report said. Boelter would have been instructed to consider himself a "spiritual warrior."
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Well, considering the two time president there could be a glimmer of truth in this theory.
But Boelter was looking for demons in all the wrong places.
But Boelter was looking for demons in all the wrong places.
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Vance Boelter tells judge he is ‘looking forward to the facts about the 14th coming out,’ will remain in federal custody
The man accused of fatally shooting House Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, as well as injuring state Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, will stay in federal custody after waiving a detention and preliminary hearing during his court appearance Thursday.“Your honor, I’m looking forward to court, and looking forward to the facts about the 14th coming out,” Boelter told Magistrate Judge Douglas Micko. Boelter affirmed that he knowingly waived his rights to the full hearings he was entitled.
“That gets us to court faster, where the truth can come out,” Boelter said. “I think Minnesotans want to know what’s going on.”
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Earlier that morning, state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, were shot in their home in nearby Champlin and hospitalized. Police responding to the attack on.”
Inside Boelter's vehicle was a list of nearly 70 people, including abortion rights advocates, Democratic politicians, and abortion providers.
Let’s keep in mind that these shootings are not by “them”, the other side. The are by disturbed outliers.
Inside Boelter's vehicle was a list of nearly 70 people, including abortion rights advocates, Democratic politicians, and abortion providers.
Let’s keep in mind that these shootings are not by “them”, the other side. The are by disturbed outliers.
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I agree.
Usually leadership should have the cooler heads but not with this administration....
White House vows to ‘dismantle radical Left’ after Charlie Kirk killing
I'm going to predict there will never be a clear picture of rhis guys political affiliation because they will never release it.
I don't knownwhy they would never release it..
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Yeah, I was going to point out that it's exactly 3 months ago now.
The only news I've seen recently is that the shooter's wife has divorced him.
The only news I've seen recently is that the shooter's wife has divorced him.
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I think its pretty obvious which side of political spectrum this guy was on. And I'm telling you there is no excuse for his actions. Its an act of murder, plain and simple.
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A general AI search indicates there was hardly any approval of what Vance Boelter did.
The twisted cheers of support for the murder of Charlie Kirk are sadly noticeable.
The twisted cheers of support for the murder of Charlie Kirk are sadly noticeable.
Multiple people lose jobs after posts, comments about Charlie Kirk assassination
Public figures, academics and everyday business owners have faced consequences for comments that contained celebrations or other musings.
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Special election to fill slain lawmaker Melissa Hortman's seat shines light on political violence
Democrat XP Lee and Republican Ruth Bittner are vying for the Minnesota seat.Voters will choose between Democratic nominee XP Lee, a former Brooklyn Park City Council member, and Republican nominee Ruth Bittner, a real estate agent.
Born in a refugee camp in Thailand after his family fled the Vietnam War, Lee says he is focused on improving education and access to health care.
Lee is favored to win in Hortman's blue-leaning home district, which would restore the chamber to a 67-67 deadlock.
Bittner is capitalizing on her lack of political experience, branding herself as a new voice that is focused on eliminating government inefficiencies and improving public safety and education.
Investigators recovered a list of about 45 elected officials in notebooks in Boelter's car, according to prosecutors. The alleged shooter's list of potential targets also included the names of abortion providers and pro-choice activists, several sources told ABC News. Many of the Democratic lawmakers on the list have been outspoken about pro-choice policy positions, two sources said.
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