Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat

rambot · Friday at 9:33 PM

"Maximum lethality. Not tepid legality"
Hegseth.

Wow. Shame on anyone who supports that.

America....you're now led by losers despeerately trying not to be.

Pommer · Friday at 9:56 PM

In before the lock!

Vambram · Friday at 10:43 PM

rambot said:
Not in international waters.

Clear your head man

My head is perfectly clear and I hope that the US military destroys more drug trafficking boats in international waters.

Vambram · Friday at 10:44 PM

DaisyDay said:
The Intercept: Pentagon Official: Trump Boat Strike Was a Criminal Attack on Civilians

The lethal strike on a boat in the Caribbean on Tuesday was a criminal attack on civilians, according to a high-ranking Pentagon official who spoke to the Intercept on the condition of anonymity.

...“The U.S. is now directly targeting civilians. Drug traffickers may be criminals but they aren’t combatants,” the Department of Defense official said. “When Trump fired the military’s top lawyers the rest saw the writing on the wall, and instead of being a critical firebreak they are now a rubber stamp complicit in this crime.”

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth offered his own justification for the strike the same day. “Every boatload of any form of drug that poisons the American people is an imminent threat. And at the DoD our job is to defeat imminent threats,” he told a group of journalists. “A foreign terrorist organization poisoning your people with drugs coming from a drug cartel is no different than Al Qaeda, and they will be treated as such as they were in international waters.”

Two U.S. government officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that Hegseth’s justification – which one called “completely unserious” – took shape after the attack.

Experts said Hegseth’s rationale was flimsy, if not farcical....

The anonymous sources are absolutely incorrect.

Vambram · Friday at 10:46 PM

iluvatar5150 said:
lol, nobody questioned where it came from. It’s like you’re being deliberately obtuse.

No, I am not obtuse at all. But, it's like you care more about international drug traffickers than you care Americans.

Nithavela · Friday at 10:55 PM

I think the obvious solution is to bomb everyone accused of a crime.

DaisyDay · Friday at 11:06 PM

Vambram said:
No, I am not obtuse at all. But, it's like you care more about international drug traffickers than you care Americans.

Americans can always just say, "No" and decline to seek out, buy and take these drugs. Whatever happened to the party of personal responsibility?

Were the people identified? Do we know who they actually were?

rjs330 · Friday at 11:38 PM

iluvatar5150 said:
It blows my mind how easily conservatives have abandoned their valuing of due process and reading comprehension.

Nobody here "defending narco terrorists on top of ms-13 rapist[sic] and murders[sic]". You imagined that.

Narco terrorists are no different than ISIS terrorists. If we caught a boat load of ISIS headed this way I would hope we'd just blow it up.

These evil people who are bringing in things that enslave and kill thousands of Americans a year, dont deserve a trial and don't deserve to be locked up to take up space in our jails. They deserve to be blown to smithereens.

You have misunderstood our position on due process obviously. Those who are here and are arrested on our soil, get due process. Those coming here with things that will kill Americans is an invasion of terrorists and deserve nothing but a very large missile.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:46 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
Maybe you don’t know this (or you just don’t care) but suspected drug dealers and traffickers and anyone accused of a crime also have rights and protections under our laws. That’s what makes us better than the terrorists.

No they don't when involving invading our country with their products that kill Americans. They are terrorists and have no rights. Anymore than any other terrorist overseas who is blown up with a drone.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:50 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
Where did God say it’s ok to preemptively blow up a boat in international waters if the occupants are suspected drug traffickers?

In Romans. Its the governments God given responsibility to protect its citizens from evil doers. And thats what the government did.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:51 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
Or do you just believe whatever the government says?

As opposed to you who never believes what the government says? No matter who is in the presidents seat?

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 11:55 PM

rjs330 said:
No they don't when involving invading our country with their products that kill Americans.

The Caribbean is not our country. There was no invasion of our country here. Flimsy excuses for murdering 11 people.

rjs330 said:
They are terrorists and have no rights.

You might be surprised to learn people suspected of a crime, even terrorists, have rights too.

Even the Nazis were given a trial.

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 11:56 PM

rjs330 said:
In Romans. It’s the governments God given responsibility to protect its citizens from evil doers. And thats what the government did.

I don’t believe you. Quote the part that says suspected drug traffickers can be blown out of the water by the military.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:57 PM

DaisyDay said:
The Intercept: Pentagon Official: Trump Boat Strike Was a Criminal Attack on Civilians

The lethal strike on a boat in the Caribbean on Tuesday was a criminal attack on civilians, according to a high-ranking Pentagon official who spoke to the Intercept on the condition of anonymity.

...“The U.S. is now directly targeting civilians. Drug traffickers may be criminals but they aren’t combatants,” the Department of Defense official said. “When Trump fired the military’s top lawyers the rest saw the writing on the wall, and instead of being a critical firebreak they are now a rubber stamp complicit in this crime.”

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth offered his own justification for the strike the same day. “Every boatload of any form of drug that poisons the American people is an imminent threat. And at the DoD our job is to defeat imminent threats,” he told a group of journalists. “A foreign terrorist organization poisoning your people with drugs coming from a drug cartel is no different than Al Qaeda, and they will be treated as such as they were in international waters.”

Two U.S. government officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that Hegseth’s justification – which one called “completely unserious” – took shape after the attack.

Experts said Hegseth’s rationale was flimsy, if not farcical....

Yep there are still leftist ideologues in tge government who will oppose anything Trump does and will side with narco terrorists.

Democrats really should keep it up. Siding or defending murderers and criminals and terrorists is always a winning strategy.

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 11:58 PM

rjs330 said:
As opposed to you.

Yeah. Why do you find this government so trustworthy? I think you simply don’t have a choice but to believe them.

rjs330 · Friday at 11:59 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
You might be surprised to learn people suspected of a crime, even terrorists, have rights too.

If they are caught and captured here i would say yes. On their way here, I say no.

And we killed a LOT of Nazis before any were put on trial.

rjs330 · 2025-09-06T00:04:14-0500

DaisyDay said:
Whatever happened to the party of personal responsibility?

We still do not support legalizing all drugs.

These drug invaders were held personally responsible for their actions.

Nithavela · 2025-09-06T03:24:11-0500

One has to wonder which other groups of people are prone to being denight their rights for the good of the many. It was and is being tried with immigrants, who are shipped off to foreign countries without due process.

Perhaps people from the media? After all, they are, to quote Trump, "the enemy of the people".

wing2000 · 2025-09-06T07:32:11-0500

Vambram said:
Americans have different legal rights than foreigners narco terrorists cartels.

Apparently, the Trump administration thinks they have no rights.

Vambram said:
But, if you want to continue to surrender to the narco cartels of Mexico and Venezuela, please by all means, be my guest. On the other hand, I believe that the narco cartels responsible for killing more Americans than WW1 & WW2 must be destroyed.

Ah, so either I go along with blowing up boats or I am surrendering? What kind of nonsense is that Vabram?

wing2000 · 2025-09-06T07:41:31-0500

DaisyDay said:
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth offered his own justification for the strike the same day. “Every boatload of any form of drug that poisons the American people is an imminent threat. And at the DoD our job is to defeat imminent threats,” he told a group of journalists. “A foreign terrorist organization poisoning your people with drugs coming from a drug cartel is no different than Al Qaeda, and they will be treated as such as they were in international waters.”

....notice his pathetic attempt to conflate drug traffickers withe Al Qaeda.

Congress has not authorized the military to attack Tren de Agua, MS-13 nor any other gang that the "Secretary of War" is trying to portray as an "immnent threat" to our national security.

The operation was illegal.

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