Chicago Mayor - the city is safe needs no help

Always in His Presence · Wednesday at 10:31 AM

essentialsaltes said:
It is not illegal to shoot agents of the federal government? ICE raids are gonna get a lot more exciting.

Never said that - try reading the 2nd amendment - also stay within the scope of the question -

A2SG said:
Yup, I did say "sending in armed military troops does seem to line up with the goals and objectives of the NRA so it does seem on brand."

Correct and I provided the link to their website where their goals and objectives are plainly stated and there is ZERO about sending military's troops anywhere -

A2SG said:
The goals and objectives of the NRA include the promotion of guns. More guns are out there. Mission accomplished.

ah.... seems like taking two different things and because they both mention guns, but one never even mentions sending the military anywhere - there is an obvious connection. 1+1=Banana

BTW - you are the one who brought it into the conversation - you can't just drop an unfounded and now demonstrably false statement and then try to back out because you realized you made an off topic accusation.

Here is a hint - how about we both stay on topic?

Desk trauma · Wednesday at 10:40 AM

Say it aint so said:
Is this a long term solution or a short term?

No.

Always in His Presence · Wednesday at 10:41 AM

Remember we are talking about minority on minority crime, since the good mayor took office:

Total Estimate (May 15, 2023 – September 3, 2025):

Victims:
- 2023 (May 15–Dec 31): ~1,591 victims.
- 2024: ~2,125 victims.
- 2025 (Jan 1–Sep 3): ~1,120 victims.

That is 4,836 victims

A2SG · Wednesday at 10:40 PM

Always in His Presence said:
Correct and I provided the link to their website where their goals and objectives are plainly stated and there is ZERO about sending military's troops anywhere -

A claim I never made. Let's not forget that.

Always in His Presence said:
ah.... seems like taking two different things and because they both mention guns, but one never even mentions sending the military anywhere - there is an obvious connection. 1+1=Banana

Hey, you brought the military bit into this, not me. Just sayin'.

Always in His Presence said:
BTW - you are the one who brought it into the conversation -

I only mentioned the NRA as an aside. A lot of people, you included if I recall correctly, claim to ignore my little sigs.

Always in His Presence said:
you can't just drop an unfounded and now demonstrably false statement and then try to back out because you realized you made an off topic accusation.

It wasn't demonstrably false. Does the NRA promote guns? Yes. Does the GOP support the NRA and it's goals and objectives? Also yes. The rest is stuff you added, not me.

Always in His Presence said:
Here is a hint - how about we both stay on topic?

Hey, I tried. You insisted on continuing this digression.

-- A2SG, will gladly discontinue this little tangent....if you will....

rambot · Wednesday at 11:04 PM

[Cough, cough]

Hans Blaster · Wednesday at 11:25 PM

BPPLEE said:
Speak English you should learn before teach you try.

No, Try Not! Do, or not do. There is no Try.

Hans Blaster · Wednesday at 11:32 PM

Always in His Presence said:
Never said that - try reading the 2nd amendment - also stay within the scope of the question -

It clearly has the purpose to put down rebellions through well organized militias, not start them. Occasionally they must be organized in to a Grand Army of the Republic (Or is it "of the Tennessee"?) if the rebellion is excessively large.

wing2000 · Thursday at 7:58 AM

JosephZ said:
I can't find where the mayor of Chicago has ever said "the city is safe and needs no help." Do you have a source for this statement? If not, you should change the title of the thread.

...I guess the answer is "No, I don't have a source."

wing2000 · Thursday at 7:59 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Post #3

I never said it was a verbatim quote -

Your title implies it.

rambot · Thursday at 8:26 AM

Well thank goodness the NG was deployed to Washington! Now they can finally get the green spaces cleaned up.

Looks like another spot on understanding of Reality from this adminstration! DC is SOOOOO dangerous, the NG does garden work.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/national-guardsmen-deployed-to-dc-balance

I can't imagine the good the NG could do in Chicago.

Maybe they could just work on selling hot dogs from carts during festivals.

essentialsaltes · Thursday at 8:46 AM

rambot said:
Maybe they could just work on selling hot dogs from carts during festivals.

Hopefully the out of staters get proper ketchup training or there could be bloodshed.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 2:32 PM

wing2000 said:
Your title implies it.

Your mind reading is not working well.

rambot · Thursday at 2:57 PM

Always in His Presence said:
oh and if 54 people shot, seven murdered in one weekend is not a sign of needing help - how many have to die before it is?

That's reductionist. You could LITERALLY put any number in there and say the exact same thing....

Try it!

"Oh and if 9 people get shot; 2 murdered in one weekend is not a sign of needing help, how many have to die before it is?

essentialsaltes · Thursday at 3:01 PM

rambot said:
That's reductionist. You could LITERALLY put any number in there and say the exact same thing....

Try it!

"Oh and if 9 people get shot; 2 murdered in one weekend is not a sign of needing help, how many have to die before it is?

But it's so useful if you want an eternal military presence in our cities.

rambot · Thursday at 3:08 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
But when black kids shoot up other black kids, the left does nothing.

Do you have examples of that?

essentialsaltes said:
But it's so useful if you want an eternal military presence in our cities.

Let's be honest, I am 90% sure they'd be upset if the NG went into a "Republican city".

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 3:08 PM

rambot said:
That's reductionist. You could LITERALLY put any number in there and say the exact same thing....

Try it!

"Oh and if 9 people get shot; 2 murdered in one weekend is not a sign of needing help, how many have to die before it is?

You perhaps could - I quoted actual numbers.

rambot · Thursday at 3:09 PM

Always in His Presence said:
You perhaps could - I quoted actual numbers.

I am referring to the argument you make...not specific numbers. In fact, I'm pointing out that the numbers mean nothing as the argument ITSELF is purely emotional and objective.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 3:15 PM

rambot said:
I am referring to the argument you make...not specific numbers. In fact, I'm pointing out that the numbers mean nothing as the argument ITSELF is purely emotional and objective.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

rambot · Thursday at 3:22 PM

Always in His Presence said:
I'm sorry you feel that way.

I don't "feel" that way...and now you don't have to deal with the quality of your argument and continue to feel morally outraged due to some subjective feeling.

camille70 · Thursday at 4:43 PM

Always in His Presence said:
Remember we are talking about minority on minority crime, since the good mayor took office:

Total Estimate (May 15, 2023 – September 3, 2025):

Victims:

2023 (May 15–Dec 31): ~1,591 victims.

2024: ~2,125 victims.

2025 (Jan 1–Sep 3): ~1,120 victims.

That is 4,836 victims

Source?

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