Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

wing2000 · Friday at 2:59 PM

rjs330 said:
The cast majority of the crime cities are are run by democrats. It doesn't matter whether its a blue state or red state. Its democratic run cities where the biggest problems lie.

Trump is now showing all of them what to do to help.

Yes, we know the talking points. And we know that is the narrative being pushed by Trump. A narrative Republicans have used since Ronald Reagan....

Pommer · Friday at 6:32 PM

wing2000 said:
Yes, we know the talking points. And we know that is the narrative being pushed by Trump. A narrative Republicans have used since Ronald Reagan....

Nixon, even, but yeah.

Postvieww · Saturday at 6:05 AM

wing2000 said:
Nothing has been proven other than putting more bodies on the street will naturally deter criminal activity for a while. It's not a solution to fighting urban crime.

And it certainly does not justify diverting Federal resources from the rest of the country and deploying the National Guard.

It's all a performance.

The DC mayor disagrees with you.

wing2000 · Saturday at 7:49 AM

Postvieww said:
The DC mayor disagrees with you.

Does she? Is this your belief or do you actually have a citation from the mayor?

wing2000 · Saturday at 7:53 AM

From the first two weeks....

Records show that officers from some of the nation’s most elite federal law enforcement agencies are often conducting traffic stops, performing low-dollar buy-and-bust drug operations or checking to see whether someone is drinking liquor from an open container.

In some ways, the focus on low-level offenses or so-called quality of life crimes resembles strategies employed in cities such as New York in the 1990s that sought to drive down crime by controlling visible disorder. In the current operation, however, federal agents appeared to be stopping people for minor infractions as a way to look for more serious drug and gun offenses.

Arrests were up slightly overall, with 995 new criminal defendants booked into the city jail and taken to court between Aug. 8, the day after the surge began, and Aug. 22, compared with 870 in the previous 15-day period.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/29/us/federal-crackdown-washington-dc-arrest-data.html?searchResultPosition=4

rjs330 · Saturday at 11:47 AM

wing2000 said:
Nothing has been proven other than putting more bodies on the street will naturally deter criminal activity for a while. It's not a solution to fighting urban crime.

And it certainly does not justify diverting Federal resources from the rest of the country and deploying the National Guard.

It's all a performance.

Yes its been proven effective. Which is exactly what the conservatives have been saying for a long time. The left has been for defending the police. They have been advocating for less policing. Ive heard leftists want to dissolve the police. The left has done all they can to demonize police. Calling them jack booted thugs etc.

Now we have a clear example that more policing actually works to lower crime.

In DC what they are doing is needed and is working. Using rhe Guard and others was the FASTEST way to do this. If they actually hired more cops to do this, it would have taken a minimum of a full year if not longer.

The immediacy was what was required here and it worked.

Other cities dont have that luxury.

rjs330 · Saturday at 11:48 AM

wing2000 said:
From the first two weeks....

Records show that officers from some of the nation’s most elite federal law enforcement agencies are often conducting traffic stops, performing low-dollar buy-and-bust drug operations or checking to see whether someone is drinking liquor from an open container.

In some ways, the focus on low-level offenses or so-called quality of life crimes resembles strategies employed in cities such as New York in the 1990s that sought to drive down crime by controlling visible disorder. In the current operation, however, federal agents appeared to be stopping people for minor infractions as a way to look for more serious drug and gun offenses.

Arrests were up slightly overall, with 995 new criminal defendants booked into the city jail and taken to court between Aug. 8, the day after the surge began, and Aug. 22, compared with 870 in the previous 15-day period.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/29/us/federal-crackdown-washington-dc-arrest-data.html?searchResultPosition=4

Nice work! Keep it up guys.

wing2000 · Saturday at 1:26 PM

rjs330 said:
In DC what they are doing is needed and is working. Using rhe Guard and others was the FASTEST way to do this. If they actually hired more cops to do this, it would have taken a minimum of a full year if not longer.

The immediacy of picking up trash, thanks to NPS employee shortates and spreading tons of mulch.

RDKirk · Saturday at 2:30 PM

rjs330 said:
Yes its been proven effective. Which is exactly what the conservatives have been saying for a long time. The left has been for defending the police. They have been advocating for less policing. Ive heard leftists want to dissolve the police. The left has done all they can to demonize police. Calling them jack booted thugs etc.

Now we have a clear example that more policing actually works to lower crime.

In DC what they are doing is needed and is working. Using rhe Guard and others was the FASTEST way to do this. If they actually hired more cops to do this, it would have taken a minimum of a full year if not longer.

The immediacy was what was required here and it worked.

Other cities dont have that luxury.

You know the Guard can't stay in DC permanently, right?

Edit: It occurs to me that the US did stay in Afghanistan for 20 years.
I guess the US can keep the National Guard in DC for twenty years as well, if it turns out popular...and it might actually be popular for DC residents (as opposed to DC politicians).

Hans Blaster · Saturday at 2:37 PM

RDKirk said:
You know the Guard can't stay in DC permanently, right?

Eventually they will run out of mulch.

Postvieww · Sunday at 7:09 AM

wing2000 said:
Does she? Is this your belief or do you actually have a citation from the mayor?

Mayor Bowser acknowledged significant crime reductions during the federal surge of law enforcement and guard deployment. She highlighted an 87% drop in carjackings over a 20-day period compared to last year, along with declines in other violent crimes: homicides down 38%, sexual abuse down 44%, robberies down 62%, and property crimes down 12%. While it appears these fact are of little concern to you, Trumps actions have actually helped the situation. The mayor still doesn’t like Trump but at least she didn’t lie about the results.

wing2000 · Sunday at 1:42 PM

Postvieww said:
Mayor Bowser acknowledged significant crime reductions during the federal surge of law enforcement and guard deployment. She highlighted an 87% drop in carjackings over a 20-day period compared to last year, along with declines in other violent crimes: homicides down 38%, sexual abuse down 44%, robberies down 62%, and property crimes down 12%. While it appears these fact are of little concern to you, Trumps actions have actually helped the situation. The mayor still doesn’t like Trump but at least she didn’t lie about the results.

Good. I see you have now accurately protrayed what the Mayor said. She also noted using the National Guard was not the best use of their time.

Next time, maybe post what she actually said before assuming..,.

wing2000 · Sunday at 1:45 PM

RDKirk said:
You know the Guard can't stay in DC permanently, right?

Edit: It occurs to me that the US did stay in Afghanistan for 20 years.
I guess the US can keep the National Guard in DC for twenty years as well, if it turns out popular...and it might actually be popular for DC residents (as opposed to DC politicians).

...since the National Guard is reportedly used for picking up trash, spreading mulch and walking around the National Mall and trainstation, I submit it would be more efficient for the Feds to hire people to do those jobs....

RDKirk · Sunday at 2:25 PM

wing2000 said:
...since the National Guard is reportedly used for picking up trash, spreading mulch and walking around the National Mall and trainstation, I submit it would be more efficient for the Feds to hire people to do those jobs....

Except those would be seen as "DEI hires" even if Trump has eliminated DEI hiring, just because most local hires would be non-white by demographics.

Also, by using National Guard, federal compensation money is flowing to the red states that leaped to send in their National Guard troops. You don't think they did that for free, do you?

rjs330 · Sunday at 11:25 PM

wing2000 said:
...since the National Guard is reportedly used for picking up trash, spreading mulch and walking around the National Mall and trainstation, I submit it would be more efficient for the Feds to hire people to do those jobs....

They have been given more than one job here. Their presence is helping deter crime and rhey are beautifying the place at the same time. Win/win.

I also think they should hire more people to pick up trash and beautify the place.

The federal government has totally failed the city. Shame on them. Thank you President Trump for providing a way forward. Now its time for Congress to act to continue the way. Give the city the money to hire the cops ans people to do what federal officers and the NG is doing. Keep them there until this is accomplished.

If they dont do it, then Congress is a reckless as we believe they are. This should be a no brainer.

essentialsaltes · Tuesday at 4:25 PM

essentialsaltes said:
Big League Brother is Watching.

This guy's office in particular. Get Back To Work!

essentialsaltes · 2025-09-03T09:51:15-0500

The patrol that haunts me wasn’t in Baghdad; it was in Dupont Circle

Dupont Circle isn’t some remote corner of Washington. It’s a hub — lined with embassies, think tanks, coffee shops, bookstores and crowded sidewalks. On any given day, you’ll find students debating politics over lattes, diplomats heading to meetings and activists gathering in the park that anchors the neighborhood.

This Sunday, I retired as a command sergeant major. In nearly three decades of wearing the uniform, I never carried a government-issued weapon into civilian spaces in the States. Even convoys between installations were tightly regulated. Civilians didn’t see us walking into Krispy Kreme or boarding public transit with pistols on our hips. What I saw last week didn’t resemble the disciplined Army I know.

That should unsettle us.

While no doubt these Guardsmen are proud patriots, they aren’t seasoned veterans. Most are teenagers, far from home, trained for battlefield tasks but not for the unpredictable realities of a major city. In D.C., much like most large cities, you don’t just encounter commuters. You encounter people in crisis — homelessness, addiction, untreated mental illness. A local might avert their eyes or walk around. But what happens when the person in crisis steps aggressively toward an 18-year-old with a pistol on his hip and limited training in de-escalation?

This is not what the Guard was built for. Its mission is to respond to disasters, provide logistical support and back up civil authorities — not to serve as an armed show of force on city streets. Yet that is how they are being deployed in the nation’s capital, as they were in Los Angeles earlier this summer.

The sight of troops with weapons patrolling sidewalks, boarding trains and standing post outside coffee shops has now spread from the nation’s second-largest city to the nation’s capital. What was once extraordinary is quietly being treated as routine.

That should alarm us all.

I’ve seen what that looks like in failed states abroad: checkpoints that divide neighborhoods, convoys that intimidate civilians, armed patrols that blur the line between protector and occupier. Those societies didn’t collapse overnight. They eroded slowly, as citizens became accustomed to soldiers carrying out tasks once reserved for police or community leaders. By the time people realized the cost, trust was gone.

Command Sgt. Maj. Eric Chastain is an adjunct professor at USC’s campus in Washington, where he teaches social analysis. He served as the Army’s first senior enlisted advisor in the White House.

RDKirk · 2025-09-03T10:52:57-0500

essentialsaltes said:
The patrol that haunts me wasn’t in Baghdad; it was in Dupont Circle
Dupont Circle isn’t some remote corner of Washington. It’s a hub — lined with embassies, think tanks, coffee shops, bookstores and crowded sidewalks. On any given day, you’ll find students debating politics over lattes, diplomats heading to meetings and activists gathering in the park that anchors the neighborhood.

This Sunday, I retired as a command sergeant major. In nearly three decades of wearing the uniform, I never carried a government-issued weapon into civilian spaces in the States. Even convoys between installations were tightly regulated. Civilians didn’t see us walking into Krispy Kreme or boarding public transit with pistols on our hips. What I saw last week didn’t resemble the disciplined Army I know.

That should unsettle us.

While no doubt these Guardsmen are proud patriots, they aren’t seasoned veterans. Most are teenagers, far from home, trained for battlefield tasks but not for the unpredictable realities of a major city. In D.C., much like most large cities, you don’t just encounter commuters. You encounter people in crisis — homelessness, addiction, untreated mental illness. A local might avert their eyes or walk around. But what happens when the person in crisis steps aggressively toward an 18-year-old with a pistol on his hip and limited training in de-escalation?

This is not what the Guard was built for. Its mission is to respond to disasters, provide logistical support and back up civil authorities — not to serve as an armed show of force on city streets. Yet that is how they are being deployed in the nation’s capital, as they were in Los Angeles earlier this summer.

The sight of troops with weapons patrolling sidewalks, boarding trains and standing post outside coffee shops has now spread from the nation’s second-largest city to the nation’s capital. What was once extraordinary is quietly being treated as routine.

That should alarm us all.

I’ve seen what that looks like in failed states abroad: checkpoints that divide neighborhoods, convoys that intimidate civilians, armed patrols that blur the line between protector and occupier. Those societies didn’t collapse overnight. They eroded slowly, as citizens became accustomed to soldiers carrying out tasks once reserved for police or community leaders. By the time people realized the cost, trust was gone.

Command Sgt. Maj. Eric Chastain is an adjunct professor at USC’s campus in Washington, where he teaches social analysis. He served as the Army’s first senior enlisted advisor in the White House.

There is a reason that command sergeant major is concerned.

We are told that all National Guard members are trained in things like civilian crowd control. Okay, yeah, they got a couple of hours at some early point in their training along with a lot of other stuff.

I'm reminded when we were getting troops prepared to deploy to Kuwait for DESERT SHIELD facing for the first time an adversary known to use chemical weapons.

"Um, sergeant. Sargent!"
"Waddaya need Private Jones?"
"Remember that chem training we had last year?"
"Yeah, why?"
"Well, umm, can we get that training again? Some people might not have been paying attention."

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