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I believe that ALL who ever lived will be in God’s Kingdom

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I believe you are mistaken. It is true at this point, God’s mercy is emphasized as we are ignorant of the extent of our evil and God wants all to come to repentance. That is not a cause for us to behave presumptuously as if God would never execute justice: Romans 2 explains

1 Wherefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest. For wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself. For thou dost the same things which thou judgest. 2 For we know that the judgment of God is, according to truth, against them that do such things. 3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them who do such things, and dost the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness, and patience, and longsuffering? Knowest thou not, that the benignity of God leadeth thee to penance? 5 But according to thy hardness and impenitent heart, thou treasurest up to thyself wrath, against the day of wrath, and revelation of the just judgment of God.

6 Who will render to every man according to his works. 7 To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: 8 But to them that are contentious, and who obey not the truth, but give credit to iniquity, wrath and indignation. 9 Tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that worketh evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Greek. 10 But glory, and honour, and peace to every one that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek



We invite others to the mercy of God. Repent and cease to do evil, and God will forgive. His mercy endures forever, but what of those that neglect His mercy? Scripture says they receive wrath and indignation




Isaiah 5 tells us



16 And the Lord of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and the holy God shall be sanctified in justice. 17 And the lambs shall feed according to their order, and strangers shall eat the deserts turned into fruitfulness. 18 Woe to you that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as the rope of a cart. 19 That say: Let him make haste, and let his work come quickly, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel come, that we may know it. 20 Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.
21 Woe to you that are wise in your own eyes, and prudent in your own conceits. 22 Woe to you that are mighty to drink wine, and stout men at drunkenness. 23 That justify the wicked for gifts, and take away the justice of the just from him. 24 Therefore as the tongue of the fire devoureth the stubble, and the heat of the flame consumeth it: so shall their root be as ashes, and their bud shall go up as dust: for they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and have blasphemed the word of the Holy One of Israel. 25 Therefore is the wrath of the Lord kindled against his people, and he hath stretched out his hand upon them, and struck them: and the mountains were troubled, and their carcasses became as dung in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still



Now is the time where Jesus offers mercy, as should we that are called by His name. The scroll which He read at the start of His ministry says it well

Isaiah 61
1 The spirit of the Lord is upon me, because the Lord hath anointed me: he hath sent me to preach to the meek, to heal the contrite of heart, and to preach a release to the captives, and deliverance to them that are shut up. 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord


That is now. The time for mercy is here, but it will not always be so, as the verse continues when it says

….. and the day of vengeance of our God: to comfort all that mourn: 3 To appoint to the mourners of Sion, and to give them a crown for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, a garment of praise for the spirit of grief: and they shall be called in it the mighty ones of justice, the planting of the Lord to glorify him.
I am referencing God before the Word was sent forth … and where you are, if you be “in Christ” …

My statement/question is not about who ascends or who descends, it is about the one who is in the midst … to the left or right of the cross lies a thief … this leads to a casting down of the truth in us, and it brings about a process in our soul that leads us into a wilderness, wherein is a bloodless altar … like wine that moves itself in the cup … the serpent lies in the sea … this in the light of the sons (no gender implied) that we are … the narrative that begins, and is, the Word sent forth, like bread cast upon the waters …

The Word (Christ) was crucified from the foundation of the world …

God is not justification, God’s justification is himself; in the form of a seed/son which was the name Jesus declared in a relational/literal way … (in picture form referencing the garden scenario) an because he could swear by no greater, he swore by himself … which has more to do with us then we are willing to forsake to enter into …

The Word/words, is/are, infinite (to the fullest extent of what that word means); it is the chosen path; it is what calls light out of darkness … as it is the process of a seed … all in the light of picking up a cross …
 
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whether you want to believe the devil is literal
It is an adverse spirit, not the persons (everyone) inhabited by it

Not every thought is your own
 
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It is an adverse spirit, not the persons (everyone) inhabited by it

Not every thought is your own
I was in a meeting one time (I was in my mid 20’s) with people who had mistaken me for a prophet, who were eager to hear what God was telling me … as we sat fellowshipping over the word I heard in my mind a thought go by me and could tell it was not aimed at me … after a little while and the meeting having ended, I asked this woman sitting across from me if she had a thought about not being able to have a child … she was astonished that I would know that … I simply replied it went by me to get to you, because that is what it felt like … the snare that is laid in vain in the sight of any bird is a thought … the thoughts that are earthly, sensual, devilish … this is what angels/children represent to me ... from one place ...

I had a dream three years after I accepted Jesus Christ as my personnel Lord and Savior that I awoke from sweating, huddled in the corner of my bed. In the dream I found myself in a small washed out gray cell in the corner of a bed in the twilight … the door had a small window in it, with three iron bars, from this window stared a beast whose face brought an uncontrolled horror over me … I could feel it’s hatred like a stifling presence pressing upon the room. The Lord said to me ... That was what was in you …
 
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I am referencing God before the Word was sent forth … and where you are, if you be “in Christ” …

My statement/question is not about who ascends or who descends, it is about the one who is in the midst … to the left or right of the cross lies a thief … this leads to a casting down of the truth in us, and it brings about a process in our soul that leads us into a wilderness, wherein is a bloodless altar … like wine that moves itself in the cup … the serpent lies in the sea … this in the light of the sons (no gender implied) that we are … the narrative that begins, and is, the Word sent forth, like bread cast upon the waters …

The Word (Christ) was crucified from the foundation of the world …

God is not justification, God’s justification is himself; in the form of a seed/son which was the name Jesus declared in a relational/literal way … (in picture form referencing the garden scenario) an because he could swear by no greater, he swore by himself … which has more to do with us then we are willing to forsake to enter into …

The Word/words, is/are, infinite (to the fullest extent of what that word means); it is the chosen path; it is what calls light out of darkness … as it is the process of a seed … all in the light of picking up a cross …
Now you are changing the words. You imply that God needs to justify Himself.

How do you define justice? To render that which is due. God is due all power, honor and glory. To suggest otherwise is to be in league with demons Since God is due all, He is justice itself. We do not ask how does God justify Himself. To say that He needs to do so implies that He is then not God, and there is this vague concept of justice which is above God. That is false, and the error of the pagans with their polytheism each of their gods needed to justify himself

Justification is a different word though it sounds similar. Justification is a process whereby unjust are made just. This is what God does for us not we Him

Mary immaculate knew this and is why she proclaimed her Magnificat. My soul magnifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my savior.
She who knew no sin, does not elevate herself above God. She knew as a creature, even with no sin, needed a savior. She has perfect humility
 
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What is the justification God provides himself to measure the end result of his actions …
Above is what I first wrote, and that you first responded to ...

Now you are changing the words. You imply that God needs to justify Himself.

The way I used the word defines it's meaning ...

"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Your justification is your words ...

Without God there would have been no sin ... or anything else (outside of himself) for that matter ...
 
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Above is what I first wrote, and that you first responded to ...



The way I used the word defines it's meaning ...

"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Your justification is your words ...

Without God there would have been no sin ... or anything else (outside of himself) for that matter ...
Now you are saying that God is that author of sin. You are way off in your thinking, so much so that you do not even realize it. There is no point to continue in your logic. You are not using godly reasoning, rather vain speculation
Only a demon would say that there is no sin unless there is God
 
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Now you are saying that God is that author of sin. You are way off in your thinking, so much so that you do not even realize it. There is no point to continue in your logic. You are not using godly reasoning, rather vain speculation
Only a demon would say that there is no sin unless there is God
To the pure all things are pure; you see an adversary, what I see is the purpose God purposed in himself ... as the path he chose ...
 
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How many are in the Bible? God makes it simple, man purposely confuses it for self-interest
I would say single ... and man, man makes merchandise of everything ... this was the temptation of Adam, as it was for Christ ... to gain what all along was yours ...

In the end, it's all abut who your Father is ( whose seed you are), and the process by thought to this end ...

Everything starts out as a seed (in a garden) in the ground of humanity's soul ... the city of the great King ... the Bride of God ...
 
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How many words does it take, to describe one Word ...
Picking at an extra every? Beneath you

Don't you think it odd that people read those scriptures, that man will live by every Word and come to an exact opposite conclusion for the majority?
 
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Picking at an extra every? Beneath you

Don't you think it odd that people read those scriptures, that man will live by every Word and come to an exact opposite conclusion for the majority?
Maybe it’s better stated as … How many words does it take to describe the word God …

More often than not, what we go into scripture looking for is what we find … which applies to a great many other things ... people will kill you for what they think the truth is ...

It (scripture) can be a bottomless pit … or an ascending/increase that has no end …
 
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Maybe it’s better stated as … How many words does it take to describe the word God …
The world cannot contain..
More often than not, what we go into scripture looking for is what we find … which applies to a great many other things
Most often reflections of our own thoughts and intentions always either good or bad or both
... people will kill you for what they think the truth is ...
God does as well. See Herod and the angel who struck him or anias and Sophia etc etc. All of us die because of sin, Romans 8:10
It (scripture) can be a bottomless pit … or an ascending/increase that has no end …
It's both nevertheless God remains Beyond all things and Beyond even the collective of all things

No words can describe
 
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