Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

essentialsaltes · Aug 27, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
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Violent crime in Washington D.C. is at a thirty year low and Toledo, Dayton, and Cleveland all had a higher crime rate than Washington D.C. in 2024.

“This is not a national emergency,” said VALOR Media Network President Kenneth Harbaugh. “The impact on the morale of these soldiers on the ground is palpable when they are pulled away from their families, when they have to miss birthdays and graduations and the beginning of school and things like that to go guard a Shake Shack.”

“The current deployments … and the ones that are being contemplated in other places throughout the country in the near future are unnecessary and disruptive to the lives of all these citizen soldiers,” said Christopher Dziubek, retired U.S. Army Brigadier General.

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rjs330 · Aug 27, 2025

The Barbarian said:
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Nothing new here. Just rhe same ole' same ole'

Count me in as one of those who disapprove. I just wish everything woild be released and let the chips fall where they may.

Postvieww · Aug 27, 2025

DC mayor now admits Trumps so called take over has actually reduced crime. This liberal politician actually putting the safety of the citizens she is over in more importance than the party talking points. Kudos for the honesty of the liberal DC mayor.

The Barbarian · Aug 27, 2025

rjs330 said:
Nothing new here. Just rhe same ole' same ole'

Slow erosion of approval. Probably going to continue until the files are released.

rjs330 said:
Count me in as one of those who disapprove. I just wish everything woild be released and let the chips fall where they may.

I honestly think that there's nothing unredacted there that would hurt him as bad as hiding it. I could be wrong.

wing2000 · Aug 27, 2025

Postvieww said:
DC mayor now admits Trumps so called take over has actually reduced crime. This liberal politician actually putting the safety of the citizens she is over in more importance than the party talking points. Kudos for the honesty of the liberal DC mayor.

....I should hope that putting more bodies on the street has some effect. What happens when they leave?

Meanwhile, Trump has re-assigned 60 DEA agents from Arizona to DC. We want our DEA agents back...on the job they are trained to do,

Mayes tells Trump 'give me our DEA agents back right now'

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes has accused the Trump Administration of undermining efforts to fight fentanyl trafficking after saying the Department of Justice relocated dozens of Arizona-based drug enforcement agents to Washington, D.C.

www.kjzz.org

rjs330 · Aug 28, 2025

The Barbarian said:
Slow erosion of approval. Probably going to continue until the files are released.

I dont think so. I think eventually Americans will tire of it and move on. Something else will grab their attention. Its just distracting right now.

The Barbarian said:
I honestly think that there's nothing unredacted there that would hurt him as bad as hiding it. I could be wrong.

I agree and that's why I honestly think its not about him. I think its international.

rjs330 · Aug 28, 2025

wing2000 said:
....I should hope that putting more bodies on the street has some effect. What happens when they leave?

Meanwhile, Trump has re-assigned 60 DEA agents from Arizona to DC. We want our DEA agents back...on the job they are trained to do,

Mayes tells Trump 'give me our DEA agents back right now'

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes has accused the Trump Administration of undermining efforts to fight fentanyl trafficking after saying the Department of Justice relocated dozens of Arizona-based drug enforcement agents to Washington, D.C.

www.kjzz.org

Are we now admitting that Trump's actions have helped?

I hope DC and Congress are taking notes on what it takes to make it safer.

The Barbarian · Aug 28, 2025

rjs330 said:
I dont think so. I think eventually Americans will tire of it and move on. Something else will grab their attention. Its just distracting right now.

Maybe so. But I notice that repeated attempts by the administration to distract Americans from the issue have failed to make much of an impact so far.

rjs330 said:
I agree and that's why I honestly think its not about him. I think its international.

I suspect that if we got the whole story, Trump would be just one of many wealthy people involved in this mess. But I expect that they have already been working to cover their tracks.

The Barbarian · Aug 28, 2025

rjs330 said:
Are we now admitting that Trump's actions have helped?

If you put crowds of people in uniform into high crime areas, it will reduce crime. Criminals don't like exposure. We'll have to see if it actually translates into some kind of lasting change.

Postvieww · Aug 28, 2025

The Barbarian said:
If you put crowds of people in uniform into high crime areas, it will reduce crime. Criminals don't like exposure. We'll have to see if it actually translates into some kind of lasting change.

There will only be “lasting change “ when the liberal policies that helped to create the problem change. Sanctuary cities, demonizing law enforcement, cashless bail, and similar policies. The DC mayor should be praised for her honesty in presenting just the facts without liberal biases in this case.

Pommer · Aug 28, 2025

Bturknett said:
I pray Trump sends the military to every US major city that is ridden with crime. We absolutely need it.

Hi and welcome to CF and forum 71!

Where are these troops supposed to live whilst protecting the citizenry?
Perhaps patriotic citizens could house them, voluntarily of course, lest we run afoul of that pesky Third Amendment.

The Barbarian · Aug 28, 2025

Postvieww said:
There will only be “lasting change “ when the liberal policies that helped to create the problem change. Sanctuary cities, demonizing law enforcement, cashless bail, and similar policies.

Seeing as illegal aliens are much less likely to commit crimes than are native-born Americans, one would think sanctuary cities would have lower crime rates than similar cities. I wonder if anyone has looked at that... (Barbarian checks)

Turns out, they have:
Again and again, studies show that there is no correlation between sanctuary policies and increased crime. A 2017 study examined overall violent crime, property crime, and assault rates in U.S. cities from 2000 through 2014 both before and after the implementation of sanctuary policies. The findings of this study and others show no statistical relationship between an increase in crime rates and implementation of sanctuary policies. There is, on the other hand, a documented decrease in crime in cities and states that prioritize welcoming instead of targeting immigrants. Data from a 2017 study by Professor Tom Wong, NILC and CAP found that sanctuary jurisdictions report higher median household income, less poverty, higher employment-to-population ratios, and lower unemployment rates.

Data Shows Sanctuary Policies Make Communities Safer, Healthier and More Prosperous

The Trump administration is threatening to revoke federal funding for cities and localities that limit local officials’ role in federal immigration enforcement – a coercive tactic to get local officials to cede their power and bend to a violent nativist vision.

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This makes sense, seeing as illegal immigrants tend to be more law-abiding than native-born Americans.

There are huge differences in the way citizens regard police in different cities, based on the way police interact with citizens. In most cities, a relatively small number of lawless officers account for most of the complaints and bribery/abuse/corruption cases. We have all seen cases where police departments have become abusive to citizens, but it's not a very large number of cases. Where there has been a problem with a relatively few bad apples, reforming qualified immunity to make each officer responsible for his or her conduct, has been effective.

Do you have any data showing that reducing or eliminating bail requirements has led to higher crime rates?

The Barbarian · Aug 28, 2025

rjs330 said:
I hope DC and Congress are taking notes on what it takes to make it safer.

Apparently, they have been, for a rather long time. Crime rates in D.C. are a fraction of what they were decades ago.

The WH is eager to deflect attention from Trump's personal problems, but this doesn't seem to be very effective in that effort.

wing2000 · Aug 28, 2025

rjs330 said:
Are we now admitting that Trump's actions have helped?

I hope DC and Congress are taking notes on what it takes to make it safer.

Neither the Mayor of D.C. nor I had anything to "admit." It's only common sense that putting bodies on the street will deter crime....at least temporarily....long enough for Trump brag....

Meanwhile, hundreds of agents from ATF, FBI, DEA etc have been pulled off their real jobs to perform guard duty.

wing2000 · Aug 28, 2025

Postvieww said:
There will only be “lasting change “ when the liberal policies that helped to create the problem change. Sanctuary cities, demonizing law enforcement, cashless bail, and similar policies. The DC mayor should be praised for her honesty in presenting just the facts without liberal biases in this case.

...and here I thought strong families were the solution to "lasting change." It's far more covenient to blame liberals eh?

Postvieww · Aug 28, 2025

wing2000 said:
...and here I thought strong families were the solution to "lasting change." It's far more covenient to blame liberals eh?

The “lasting change” here in context was referring to crime. Would you like to compare liberal run cities crime stats to conservative run cities?

wing2000 · Aug 28, 2025

Postvieww said:
The “lasting change” here in context was referring to crime. Would you like to compare liberal run cities crime stats to conservative run cities?

I would if I thought you would present a fair comparison using objective data with documented policies.

wing2000 · Aug 28, 2025

Btw, how does "cashless bail" contributed to crime?

rjs330 · Aug 28, 2025

The Barbarian said:
Maybe so. But I notice that repeated attempts by the administration to distract Americans from the issue have failed to make much of an impact so far.

You havent noticed anything. You are projecting your bias into it. Trump would be moving forward with his agenda regardless.

The Barbarian said:
I suspect that if we got the whole story, Trump would be just one of many wealthy people involved in this mess. But I expect that they have already been working to cover their tracks.

You dont have to suspect anything. We all know Trump had been friends with Epstien. And the wealthy who would be listed may try and cover but may face other issues if their name pops up. Also there are other international considerations besides just naming those involved.

rjs330 · Aug 28, 2025

The Barbarian said:
Apparently, they have been, for a rather long time. Crime rates in D.C. are a fraction of what they were decades ago.
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The WH is eager to deflect attention from Trump's personal problems, but this doesn't seem to be very effective in that effort.

Glad its down from unconscionable to just really bad. Now its down even more thanks to Trumps moves.

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