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Under RFK Jr.'s Leadership, CDC Launches Large Wasteful Study on Vaccines and Autism

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The announcement has raised questions, given the extensive scientific research that has consistently found no link between vaccines and autism. Yet, despite overwhelming evidence debunking the claim, skepticism persists, fueled in part by HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

ABC News with HHS confirmation

CDC to study vaccines and autism, despite several studies already finding no link​

HHS spokesman Andrew Nixon confirmed the effort in a statement overnight, saying the agency plans to leave "no stone unturned."

"As President Trump said in his Joint Address to Congress, the rate of autism in American children has skyrocketed. CDC will leave no stone unturned in its mission to figure out what exactly is happening,” the statement said. “The American people expect high quality research and transparency and that is what CDC is delivering."
SMH

I have no words.
 
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RFK Jr. Promises to Reveal the ‘Cause’ of Autism Next Month

Kennedy made the announcement at a cabinet meeting on Tuesday.

After being prompted by Trump, RFK Jr. stated that his agency will announce having found “certain interventions” that are “clearly almost certainly causing autism” in a report set to come out in September.

Kennedy has previously argued that childhood vaccines are responsible for autism—a link unsupported by the vast majority of relevant studies.

In March, Reuters reported that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would be tasked with reexamining whether vaccines cause autism; later that month, HHS changed tack and appointed a notorious anti-vaccination proponent, David Geier, to lead the study. In April, RFK Jr. announced that HHS would launch a series of studies aimed at uncovering the “environmental toxins” purportedly responsible for rising rates of reported autism cases, with results expected by September.

To be perfectly clear, though, dozens of studies over the years haven’t found evidence that vaccines or specific vaccine ingredients are among these causes. Just last month, another study of 1.2 million people in Denmark failed to show a link between aluminum in vaccines and autism or other neurological conditions—a conclusion that so angered Kennedy he called for the study’s publisher to retract it (it, of course, refused).
 
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RFK Jr. Promises to Reveal the ‘Cause’ of Autism Next Month

Kennedy made the announcement at a cabinet meeting on Tuesday.

After being prompted by Trump, RFK Jr. stated that his agency will announce having found “certain interventions” that are “clearly almost certainly causing autism” in a report set to come out in September.

Kennedy has previously argued that childhood vaccines are responsible for autism—a link unsupported by the vast majority of relevant studies.

In March, Reuters reported that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would be tasked with reexamining whether vaccines cause autism; later that month, HHS changed tack and appointed a notorious anti-vaccination proponent, David Geier, to lead the study. In April, RFK Jr. announced that HHS would launch a series of studies aimed at uncovering the “environmental toxins” purportedly responsible for rising rates of reported autism cases, with results expected by September.

To be perfectly clear, though, dozens of studies over the years haven’t found evidence that vaccines or specific vaccine ingredients are among these causes. Just last month, another study of 1.2 million people in Denmark failed to show a link between aluminum in vaccines and autism or other neurological conditions—a conclusion that so angered Kennedy he called for the study’s publisher to retract it (it, of course, refused).
It’s been proven over and over and over vaccines do not cause autism.

Maybe this fellow should follow the science?
 
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It’s been proven over and over and over vaccines do not cause autism.

Maybe this fellow should follow the science?

I just hope he puts his money where his mouth is, and declines medical care when he has an accident or gets sick. After all, who would want to be treated by the same doctors and associated health professionals he believes are part of a vast world-wide vaccine conspiracy.
 
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(I have ASD1.)

This is the current thinking in some autistic circles:
That scenario has not been adequately ruled out.
 
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Meanwhile, the data-driven Director of CDC has been ousted via Tweet today.

4 CDC leaders resign over ‘weaponizing of public health’

At least four top officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) submitted their resignations Wednesday, saying the recent changes and leadership at their agency are preventing them from fulfilling their duties as public health authorities.
The resignations came the same day that Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced a slew of changes to limit access to the COVID-19 vaccine, and just hours after news broke that CDC Director Susan Monarez was ousted from the agency.​

I mean it has to be hard relying on science, while the head of your agency is literally cooking the books Trump style.
 
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I just hope he puts his money where his mouth is, and declines medical care when he has an accident or gets sick. After all, who would want to be treated by the same doctors and associated health professionals he believes are part of a vast world-wide vaccine conspiracy.
True.
 
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RFK Jr. Says CDC Needs to More Closely Align With Trump’s Agenda


(Bloomberg) -- US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention isn’t sufficiently aligned with President Donald Trump’s agenda and it needs an overhaul, a day after the White House fired the director following an intense clash over vaccines.​
There you go. The health of America needs to follow a political agenda and not actual science.
 
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Will the answer be "Increased awareness and testing?
That will only account for the increase in ASD1s (who do not require extensive resources) but not the tidal wave of ASD2s & 3s (who do).

From The California Dept. of Developmental Disabilities,
Bottom of page 7,
"A popular hypothesis that the increase is largely due to greater awareness, changing criteria, and other diagnostic factors has not been substantiated..."

And on page 18,
"The increase is unlikely to result from diagnostic factors such as broadening criteria or greater awareness."

If autism were blindness,
  1. ASD1 would be the equivalent of color blindness;
  2. ASD2, legal blindness &
  3. ASD3, complete blindness.
 
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That will only account for the increase in ASD1s (who do not require extensive resources) but not the tidal wave of ASD2s & 3s (who do).

From The California Dept. of Developmental Disabilities,
No, that is from the San Francisco Bay Area Autism Society, allegedly based on data from the CA DDD. Those conclusions you quote do not seem to be based on raw data of any sort.

RFK, Jr., Is Wrong about Cause of Rising Autism Rates, Scientists Say

Autism rates are rising, but RFK, Jr., is wrong about the reasons. Here’s what the science says

While there are environmental risk factors for autism, such as air pollution, rising rates are mostly attributable to broadened diagnostic categories and more comprehensive screening. [This certainly allows that it is partly not, but it is certainly well established that the widening criteria are responsible for the majority of the increase.]

Kennedy downplayed diagnostic shift as a minor explanation for the increase in autism cases, but researchers have found that changes in diagnosis probably explain a majority of the increase. A 2015 study on children diagnosed as autistic in Denmark, for example, found that 60 percent of the rise of autism among children born between 1980 and 1991 was caused by changes in diagnostic criteria and reporting practices. Another 2015 study examined students in U.S. special education programs between 2000 and 2010. The number of autistic children who enrolled in special education tripled from 93,624 to 419,647. In the same time frame, however, the number of children labeled as having an “intellectual disability” declined from 637,270 to 457,478. The shift of children from one diagnostic category to another explained two thirds of the increase in autism in this population, researchers say.
 
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RFK Jr. Says CDC Needs to More Closely Align With Trump’s Agenda


(Bloomberg) -- US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention isn’t sufficiently aligned with President Donald Trump’s agenda and it needs an overhaul, a day after the White House fired the director following an intense clash over vaccines.​
There you go. The health of America needs to follow a political agenda and not actual science.
The health america hasn't followed "actual science" in a long time. Instead, it followed profit.

Not that I'd expect that to change.
 
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No, that is from the San Francisco Bay Area Autism Society, allegedly based on data from the CA DDD. Those conclusions you quote do not seem to be based on raw data of any sort
Now, you are just gaslighting. The cover said that it was based on DDS numbers.
 
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There you go. The health of America needs to follow a political agenda and not actual science.

I'm not sure why you're acting like this is new. The CDC long ago abandoned science and has been following a political agenda for quite some time.
 
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Now, you are just gaslighting. The cover said that it was based on DDS numbers.
The numbers are from the DDD. The claims and conclusions in the report, however, do not appear to have anything backing them up. It is simply asserted that "A popular hypothesis that the increase is largely due to greater awareness, changing criteria, and other diagnostic factors has not been substantiated." There's nothing in the data that the report presents to support this statement, and as @essentialsaltes pointed out in his post, there is, in fact, data substantiating the hypothesis that the increase in diagnoses is largely due to greater awareness and changing diagnostic criteria.
 
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The health america hasn't followed "actual science" in a long time. Instead, it followed profit.

Not that I'd expect that to change.
The use of science in healthcare is real and being followed. Is there a profit motive, yes. We're a capitalist country. Remove that profit motive and nationalize it, the science is still real and remains.
 
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