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Hahaha! The last part of my post is contained in the thread title. So yeah, it's relevant.
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Biden Appointed Judge Orders Release of ‘Teens’ Who Violently Attacked Ex-DOGE Employee Edward Coristine, AKA “Big Balls”
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But we don’t know why the defendants have been released.
Arguing about the “why” they were released, serves little purpose other than to have something to wrangle over, which, as forum-fare goes, is a bread-and-butter topic.
I’m only here to point out our present paucity of facts.
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We're not talking about mobs or protestors. We are talking about a specific attack in DC.
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Surely you're already aware that most prisoners will be released into society at large when they've served their terms? In the meantime, let's make the prisons safe for the prisoners and guards.
Anyway, this particular discussion is about teenagers in jail awaiting trial, not convicts in prison.
The article contains allegations and speculation.
Why are you trying to make this about me? That comment was an aside. The judge released the accused into custody and detention - a more economical alternative to having them rot in jail while awaiting trial and now giving them full freedom.
Jesse Smollet had injuries allegedly proving he was assaulted until it was proven not to be true.
Due process: the American way (so far).
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It's good to know you're not a prosecutor though, I doubt you'd be a very succesful one with arguments like this.
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I'm addressing the issue of Biden-appointed judges releasing people who are involved in mob violence. What happened in DC is just another example of it. For you to say it's not relevant is simply an attempt to not address it.
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Actually, it's about a particular teenager involved in mob violence who is not in jail awaiting trial. That's the whole point. And it's not even being addressed. Only dismissed.
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Well that's quite the construct you've built.
It isn't. This (to my understanding) wasn't a "mob". It was either a group of teens on street that got in to a confrontation with some doofus in a nice car, or it was a criminal enterprise looking for victims to carjack. (The reporting that I've seen isn't clean. I am aware of the specific claims made through heavy commentary and I am not taking a stand on the exact nature, but nothing about it strikes me as anything like the "mobs" you have quoted in "analogy". Therefore the connection you are making to differences in treatment are irrelevant.
As to the "biden appointed judge". This is a local criminal case being handled by the DC equivalent of a county judge. The only reason she is "Biden appointed" is because of the ridiculous situation that DC isn't allowed to select its own local criminal judges.
Finally with all of that nonsense out of the way, the actual news article...
The judge release two suspected into other forms of tracking. Both are actually teens (despite what the scare quotes on the article would imply) as both are 15 years old. There may also be consideration due to their age, but I don't know the juvenile criminal laws in DC (or where you live, or where I live). I don't know who is eligible for pre-trial release there. They are unlikely to be a further threat to the victim as there is no reason to think they knew each other.
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A mob of two! Allegedly involved in violence, awaiting trial. And you want the two teenagers punished now rather than given due process. Which one of the two are you mad about not being kept in jail?
Who are the witnesses? What is the evidence beyond Big Balls' bloodied face and shirt? Did the teens have his blood on them? Bruised knuckles? Anything? If so, what? Why didn't they take the car that was supposedly being jacked?
Points addressed. Pointer dismissed.
Further point addressed: this alleged incident provided the impetus for Trump's takeover of the city, going so far as to deploying the military on the safest streets in the city. Now Hegseth wants to arm the military against the civilians - for a failed carjacking!
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Just wait till you find out what the president did for the mob of insurrectionists on Jan 6th 2021, you're sure to be outraged by the flagrant miscarriage of justice then.
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Is that the only violent crime you believe has happened in D.C.?
Thankfully, Trump is getting those numbers down: District Crime Data at a Glance | mpdc
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I asked you the question. That's different from reciting what you said.
Again, do you believe that this carjacking attempt is he only violent crime you believe has happened in D.C.? I'm asking you based on a statement you actually made:
It sounds like you believe that "this alleged incident" is the reason for Trump addressing DC's crime problem as opposed to the very high rate of crime that already existed there. So I asked the question to get you to clarify.
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That is a ridiculous question that appears to be rhetorical, not real. If you seriously suppose I think that. then I question your ability to understand simple conversations - which is why I don't think you were serious.
Yes, this alleged incident is the excuse that Trump used for his governmental overreach. DC's crime problem is not a very high rate compared to some of the red cities or even compared to what it was during Trump's first term. How is a falling crime rate - 30 year low, iirc - an emergency? It isn't, it's an excuse.
Really? It seems like you asked the question to mock.
‘Big Balls’ Posts ‘Recovery’ Workout Video After Bloody D.C. Attack
The teenager has risen to MAGA stardom since being assaulted earlier this month.
Remarkable recovery - no bruises, no scratches, no black eye at all! He is quite the healer!
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He must have the same self regenerative genes that miraculously healed Trump’s ear.That is a ridiculous question that appears to be rhetorical, not real. If you seriously suppose I think that. then I question your ability to understand simple conversations - which is why I don't think you were serious.
Yes, this alleged incident is the excuse that Trump used for his governmental overreach. DC's crime problem is not a very high rate compared to some of the red cities or even compared to what it was during Trump's first term. How is a falling crime rate - 30 year low, iirc - an emergency? It isn't, it's an excuse.
Really? It seems like you asked the question to mock.
‘Big Balls’ Posts ‘Recovery’ Workout Video After Bloody D.C. Attack
The teenager has risen to MAGA stardom since being assaulted earlier this month.www.thedailybeast.com
Remarkable recovery - no bruises, no scratches, no black eye at all! He is quite the healer!
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I think we can count that bloody nose (as posted from the scene of the crime) as not involving a broken nose.
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I didn't suppose anything. I simply asked, and still haven't heard your answer.
That would be like saying the riots after George Floyd died was an excuse to riot, while people on your side would say it was the result of a buildup of frustration after years of police abuse. But now you ignore the frustration of DC's high crime rate and that people finally are accepting that something be done about it. NOTE: Trump didn't advocate for conservatives to riot about it.
And I'm happy to have corrected you about that.
The human body is able to heal. Still no excuse for a mob of thugs to attack him.‘Big Balls’ Posts ‘Recovery’ Workout Video After Bloody D.C. Attack
The teenager has risen to MAGA stardom since being assaulted earlier this month.
Remarkable recovery - no bruises, no scratches, no black eye at all! He is quite the healer!
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Are you claiming that the police photos were fake?
Either way, I'm glad to see you acknowledge that a crime was in fact committed against him.
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You supposed a basis for that ridiculous question.
Then open your ears.
For a lot of people, the BLM demonstrations were an excuse to riot, notably for Antifa and the Proud Boys as well as for opportunists looking to loot. At the same time, the demonstrations were the result of a buildup of frustration after not just years of police abuse but of the failure to hold police accountable for such abuse.
That's a false equivalence. Crime has been going down and is now at a thirty year low. The residents of DC, who are the ones most affected by crime, do not want Trump's overreach and hostile takeover of their city. Even worse, most the military patrols are in tourist areas where historically low crime rates are even lower.
His forces are there to provoke a riot, imo, so he can extend the 30 day "emergency".
Then how the heck did you come up with such a ridiculous question?
Odd comment as that is not the reason given that he was allegedly attacked.
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No. Not now, not in the post you are responding to, and not in the post that was linked a few days ago to which I initially commented about his bloody nose.
I have repeatedly referred to the assault on "big balls" (or what ever the teen's name is) as a crime. You make false accusations against me.
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