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Biden Appointed Judge Orders Release of ‘Teens’ Who Violently Attacked Ex-DOGE Employee Edward Coristine, AKA “Big Balls”

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But you can still get charged with the main crime just like a look out or a getaway driver can be held just as guilty as those that committed the actual crime.
Well, see, that’s the thing, (isn’t it)?
We don’t know the actual charges against these two children are, speculation abounds though.
 
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Well, see, that’s the thing, (isn’t it)?
We don’t know the actual charges against these two children are, speculation abounds though.
What do you think the charges should be?

ETA: They were initially charged with attempted carjacking according to the news piece in the op.
 
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What do you think the charges should be?

ETA: They were initially charged with attempted carjacking according to the news piece in the op.
Right, but the charges for which one is liable aren’t necessarily the same as the ones at the time of arrest.
 
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Right, but the charges for which one is liable aren’t necessarily the same as the ones at the time of arrest.
Correct. They will probably add more charges like assault.
 
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The crime was assault during an attempted carjacking. Let's not leave out the carjacking part. If they're members of a carjacking operation, that's a big problem.
They'll probably plea bargain it down to "Peacefully protesting DOGE".
 
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What was amplified? The guy was attacked by these thugs and we have a photo of what the victim looked like after these thugs were done with him.
Show me in the photo the evidence that he as any injury other than a bloody nose.
If he was black and his assailants were white, I'd bet Trump's presidency that the narrative would be a bit different than what we're hearing from the left-leaning press and those who parrot their narrative.
I'm not interested in your racial narrative.
 
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I'm not interested in your racial narrative.
I realize there's not much interest when black mobs attack white people. Must be a symptom of the Black lives matter "peaceful protests".
 
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Why is releasing him better than keeping a violent person in jail where he is no longer attacking people?
He's on home detention with an ankle monitor. Jail should be for people convicted of a crime, not for those merely accused. Those people in jail are still people and people do get attacked in jails.
We've already seen during Biden's administration what happens when violent criminals are captured and then released right away. It encouraged them and others to keep committing violence, and people died as a result.
Yeah, due process, man! Who needs trials and convictions when we can go straight to punishment!
 
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He's on home detention with an ankle monitor. Jail should be for people convicted of a crime, not for those merely accused. Those people in jail are still people and people do get attacked in jails.

And as this teen has shown us, people also get attacked while trying to drive their car.

Yeah, due process, man! Who needs trials and convictions when we can go straight to punishment!

I guess you've never heard of keeping dangerous people from harming more people in society after they've already been shown to be violent. What do you think this guy was locked up for? Hint: Look at the picture of the guy who was attacked.
 
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They'll probably plea bargain it down to "Peacefully protesting DOGE".
Well since we're going into the ridiculous arguements...

I agree with you! There's already precedent thanks to Jan 6 insurrectionists. Quite a few conservatives here complained about their judgements. I mean they were just being touristy, it's the people's house, they merely walked in, etc. And they got pardoned too! So I agree with this assessment based on previous positions shown here on this forum.
 
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I realize there's not much interest when black mobs attack white people. Must be a symptom of the Black lives matter "peaceful protests".

Who said this thing has anything to do with race? My post didn't. You invented some hypothetical and now are bringing in unrelated events from 5 years prior that are completely irrelevant. The attack was not part of a protest, nor has anyone claimed that it was.

The thread is about "lax liberal justice" related to suspect being out on bail.
 
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And as this teen has shown us, people also get attacked while trying to drive their car.
Did you miss the actual point, that since people get attacked in jail, putting them in jail while awaiting trial will not keep people from getting attacked.
I guess you've never heard of keeping dangerous people from harming more people in society after they've already been shown to be violent. What do you think this guy was locked up for? Hint: Look at the picture of the guy who was attacked.
These teenagers are not being released into the wild, but one is going to a youth shelter while the other is on home detention with a monitoring device. Trial first, jail (or whatever is deemed best) after conviction should there be a conviction. What you want is backwards - jail first, then, maybe, a trial eventually.
 
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Well since we're going into the ridiculous arguements...

I agree with you! There's already precedent thanks to Jan 6 insurrectionists. Quite a few conservatives here complained about their judgements. I mean they were just being touristy, it's the people's house, they merely walked in, etc. And they got pardoned too! So I agree with this assessment based on previous positions shown here on this forum.
Thank you for joining Gavin Newsom in agreeing with Trump and the rest of us. It's nice to see so many new faces joining us.
 
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Who said this thing has anything to do with race? My post didn't. You invented some hypothetical and now are bringing in unrelated events from 5 years prior that are completely irrelevant. The attack was not part of a protest, nor has anyone claimed that it was.

The thread is about "lax liberal justice" related to suspect being out on bail.
Mob Violence is mob violence. It was justified during the BLM riots, and the same people feel free to continue doing it. And why not? They get released by Biden-appointed judges anyway.
 
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Who said this thing has anything to do with race? My post didn't. You invented some hypothetical and now are bringing in unrelated events from 5 years prior that are completely irrelevant. The attack was not part of a protest, nor has anyone claimed that it was.

The thread is about "lax liberal justice" related to suspect being out on bail.
Mob Violence is mob violence. It was justified during the BLM riots, and the same people feel free to continue doing it. And why not? They get released by Biden-appointed judges anyway.
 
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Did you miss the actual point, that since people get attacked in jail, putting them in jail while awaiting trial will not keep people from getting attacked.
Oh, I get it now. Your concern is for the violent teen's safety rather than that of society.

These teenagers are not being released into the wild, but one is going to a youth shelter while the other is on home detention with a monitoring device. Trial first, jail (or whatever is deemed best) after conviction should there be a conviction. What you want is backwards - jail first, then, maybe, a trial eventually.
When someone is caught committing a violent crime, they've proven themselves violent. They wouldn't have been arrested otherwise.
 
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Oh, I get it now. Your concern is for the violent teen's safety rather than that of society.
No, what you don't get is that the accused teens are a part of society. Their safety is also a concern - it's not either/or.
When someone is caught committing a violent crime, they've proven themselves violent.
They weren't caught committing a violent crime; they were caught after the violence had concluded. I don't know who hit Big Balls or what led up to it. At least one of them probably did, but probably is not proof.

This is mind boggling in a way when compared to Trump's theft of government documents and refusal to return them. That was well documented yet there are those who still argue that just because we saw the evidence that he committed the crime doesn't mean he actually is a criminal. Some go so far as to argue that his actual conviction of 34 counts don't mean squat. If you are one who does not make these arguments, then this is for those who do.
They wouldn't have been arrested otherwise.
Arrest does not prove guilt, otherwise you would admit that Trump was guilty of multiple crimes. A fair trial proves guilt. People get wrongly arrested all the time.
 
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No, what you don't get is that the accused teens are a part of society. Their safety is also a concern - it's not either/or.
Then let's empty out the prisons and put them all back out there since all those prisoners are part of society. Your neighborhood could be the first place they go. Do you still think they're part of society now?

They weren't caught committing a violent crime; they were caught after the violence had concluded. I don't know who hit Big Balls or what led up to it. At least one of them probably did, but probably is not proof.
The article being referenced would inform you of that.

This is mind boggling in a way when compared to Trump's theft of government documents and refusal to return them. That was well documented yet there are those who still argue that just because we saw the evidence that he committed the crime doesn't mean he actually is a criminal. Some go so far as to argue that his actual conviction of 34 counts don't mean squat. If you are one who does not make these arguments, then this is for those who do.
Why is everything about Trump with you? This thread certainly isn't. It's about a Biden-appointed judge releasing a violent criminal.

Arrest does not prove guilt, otherwise you would admit that Trump was guilty of multiple crimes. A fair trial proves guilt. People get wrongly arrested all the time.
The injury to the man who was assaulted proves he was assaulted, and there was the teens. Figure it out.
 
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Mob Violence is mob violence. It was justified during the BLM riots, and the same people feel free to continue doing it. And why not? They get released by Biden-appointed judges anyway.
None of this is relevant.
 
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