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Jesus & Social Justice
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Clare73
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Actually, with God social justice, economic justice, personal justice, public justice, criminal justice, etc., etc., etc. are all the same thing--giving one his due, what he has earned; i.e., the justice God practices.
There are no carve outs for social, economic, personal, criminal etc., all categories of the same thing--giving one his due, what he has earned.
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Depends on if you are Christian or not. Under most religions, this would be true but amongst Christians this isn't how it works.
We all deserve death because we all have sinned. Since Jesus died for those sins, we have an out, through faith.
We look at justice through the same lens. Compassion.
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We don’t earn it; it is a gift of grace by it we are to live by faith & keep the Lords commandments.(John 3:16-21, Ephesians 2:8-10, Romans 13:8-10, 2 Corinthians 9:6-15, 1 Corinthians 7:18-20 etc.).
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Is it just to give workers the same pay when one starts early in the morning and the other starts late in the after noon?
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Yes. I think the point is that it's all grace. As Paul put it, God enables us to work for God's good pleasure. Nothing is earned; it's all a gift. If I finally live in a way commensurate with flourishing life, i.e., social justice, I'm only doing that for which I was created. My position: anyone who does well for the common good is embodying their created purpose. It's more about what is removed than what is added, and what is removed is a primary orientation towards one's self. An atheist can do that, which is supremely good.
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"He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing." Deut 10:18
Some cannot earn. Even the ability to earn is a gift.
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To the idea of secular social justice (egalitarianism) this would be unjust. Everyone must have equal pay and outcomes. Within this definition of social justice is equity. All must have equal outcomes like some socialist uptopia regardless of background.
The problem is with a postmodernist culture words and meanings have been reconstructed. So justice and social justice can mean different things depending on the ideological worldview.
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If that were the case, the Pharisees would have earned favor with God, the prodigal son would not have received such a warm welcome from his father, there would be no parable of the Good Samaritan, and Jesus would not have said to the repentant criminal on the cross next to him “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
We should, of course, honor our obligations and be fair in our dealings. We should let our yes be yes and our no be no. However, God's idea of justice isn't from a worldly perspective. We live in a fallen world where it rains on the just and the unjust. A world in which people often suffer. They are our neighbors, and Jesus admonished us to love our neighbors as ourselves.
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The exercise of which compassion had to be bought and paid for with the execution of justice, where there was no compassion to the one suffering the execution of that justice.
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God provided for the execution of justice by sending Jesus to the cross. For those that believe the verdict is now innocent. For those the try to justify themselves, the verdict is guilty.
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It starts with individual justice and it is individuals who determine how just systems will be.
Isaiah 26:2 Open the gates that the righteous nation may enter, the nation that keeps faith.
If nothing else, the Torah speaks of such justice. And Jesus takes up the theme by identification with the lowly, oppressed and impoverished.
Matthew 8:20 “The foxes have holes and the birds of the heaven have nests, but the Son of Man does not have a place where He may lay His head”.
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