Another look at the moon landing.

Herman Hedning said:

And if there was even the slightest possibility that any of that was fake, do you really think that the Soviet space agency (among others) wouldn't have cried foul immediately?

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They were probably in on it too, remember the Antarctic treaty ?

Apple Sky said:

There's a difference between plotting & a theory. Conspiracy Theorists are just that theorists.

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a) I was showing you the meaning of conspiracy - i.e. a plot; a plan to cause harm or damage.
Some body/people have conspired together to come up with the theory that the moon landings were faked/Elvis is alive/this action looks suspicious.

Apple Sky said:

Yes I do

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What are the names of everybody in NASA then? What are their qualifications? What experiments are they doing and what are they trying to prove/cover up?
You don't know, do you?

Apple Sky said:

I've read believable stories that would make yer hair curl.

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You choose to believe them because you are addicted to conspiracy theories and are ready to swallow anything which confirms your beliefs

When it comes to Christians though - your brothers in Christ - you're willing to believe that they are lying.

Apple Sky said:

You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

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Might do; might not.
But as you haven't told us, we have nothing to go on. And I want proper references, please - not just YouTube clips that are a few hours long, and which you probably haven't watched anyway.

Apple Sky said:

I can see your using all the 'W's' well.
Who, what, when & why.

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A sure sign that you can't answer my questions; change the subject or give a slightly condescending reply.
This is not the first time I've asked you what NASA are covering up - still no answer.

No evidence is still no evidence.

Apple Sky said:

They were probably in on it too, remember the Antarctic treaty ?

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That means you can't answer it, so you are choosing to reply to only one question.
"They were probably in on it" - do you mean "probably" as in " the balance of evidence suggests" or "probably" as in "I haven't a clue so I'll just make this wild accusation that I can't prove"?

Apple Sky said:

They were probably in on it too, remember the Antarctic treaty ?

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Sure, like the rest of the world. That was an impressive conspiracy - the entire world was in it, billions of people. How do you think that would work?

Strong in Him said:

What are the names of everybody in NASA then? What are their qualifications?

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No idea.

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What experiments are they doing and what are they trying to prove/cover up?

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As I've said before NASA is all about hiding God. God knew this & this why Paul wrote;

For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, 2 Thessalonians 2:11

Herman Hedning said:

Sure, like the rest of the world. That was an impressive conspiracy - the entire world was in it, billions of people. How do you think that would work?

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Well it worked for the Antarctic treaty.

Apple Sky said:

No idea.

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Therefore you know nothing about them, therefore my comment still stands.

Apple Sky said:

As I've said before NASA is all about hiding God.

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Right.
Some of the NASA employees are Christians.

Astronaut says faith in Jesus sustained him through 9 months stranded in space

NASA astronaut Butch Wilmore, who was trapped aboard the International Space Station for 9 months with fellow astronaut, Suni Williams, is attributing his endurance during the mission to one thing above all - his faith in Jesus Christ.

www.christiantoday.com

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The first man on the moon read from Genesis, another celebrated Holy Communion. A couple of astronauts became Christians after they walked on the moon.
But NASA is all about hiding God? Yeah, right.

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Yeah, right.

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Right.

Apple Sky said:

Well it worked for the Antarctic treaty.

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Obviously you have no clue what the Antarctic treaty is. But that is off topic for this discussion.

Apple Sky said:

Right.

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So, explain then.

I gave you 3 links which told of NASA engineers/astronauts speaking about their faith, 2 examples of people who shared Scripture/communion on the moon and a couple of people who walked on the moon and then became Christians.
And you reckon that NASA are all about hiding God.

If you don't explain or give any evidence then it doesn't matter if you say "right" or "I'm wealy, wealy telling the truth" - it means nothing.

Herman Hedning said:

Obviously you have no clue what the Antarctic treaty is. But that is off topic for this discussion.

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Yes I do but like you said this is off topic.

Strong in Him said:

And you reckon that NASA are all about hiding God.

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They are, do you really believe that all these pictures of the universe are real, do you really believe there are billions of stars & other Galaxies & planets that can be landed upon like Mars ?

If so there's nothing more I can say to you to convince you that NASA is hiding God as this is all the evidence.

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And you reckon that NASA are all about hiding God.

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They are, do you really believe that all these pictures of the universe are real, do you really believe there are billions of stars & other Galaxies & planets that can be landed upon like Mars ?

If so there's nothing more I can say to you to convince you that NASA is hiding God as this is all the evidence.

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And you reckon that NASA are all about hiding God.

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They are, do you really believe that all these pictures of the universe are real, do you really believe there are billions of stars & other Galaxies & planets that can be landed upon like Mars ?

If so there's nothing more I can say to you to convince you that NASA is hiding God as this is all the evidence.

Strong in Him said:

And you reckon that NASA are all about hiding God.

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They are, do you really believe that all these pictures of the universe are real, do you really believe there are billions of stars & other Galaxies & planets that can be landed upon like Mars ?

If so there's nothing more I can say to you to convince you that NASA is hiding God as this is all the evidence.

Apple Sky said:

They are, do you really believe that all these pictures of the universe are real,

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Yes.

Apple Sky said:

do you really believe there are billions of stars & other Galaxies & planets that can be landed upon like Mars ?

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Yes.

Apple Sky said:

If so there's nothing more I can say to you to convince you that NASA is hiding God

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No - you don't realise it, but YOU are hiding God.

God is awesome, all mighty, all powerful and able to do, create etc far far more than we can ever imagine.
His creation , the world, planet, universe, solar system, milky way etc etc is enormous. Yet you have reduced his creation to a flat earth that is covered over by a dome which no one, or rocket, can get through. Your view of creation is limited - therefore your view of God is limited.

Go and look at the night sky through a telescope; I dare you. Forget all about globe earth, men landing on the moon, the moon being made of plasma etc etc - just go and look at the vastness of space. Read a magazine, like the BBC Sky at night; learn about planets, milky ways, stars, the sun etc. And then say "my Father made all that from nothing". The Psalmist said "the heavens declare the glory of God", and he only saw what he could see with his own eyes. God told Abraham to count the stars in the sky - if indeed they can be counted. That hints of a sky/solar system that is so big we can never know/see all of it.
Doesn't that fill you with a sense of awe, wonder and the sheer vastness, power and glory of God?
If not, there's nothing I can say to convince you - your God is too small.

When will you understand that some people have been into space, seen all this with their own eyes, walked on the moon and looked down at the earth - and then have become Christians? Neil Armstrong walked on the moon and it caused him to read a few verses from Genesis 1. He was giving glory to God by reading his word - watched by millions on television.
Doesn't all that tell you that, for many, studying space etc only leads them to realise that there really is a Creator, who is awesome?
If not, there's nothing I can say to convince you - your God is too small.

Apple Sky said:

as this is all the evidence.

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You think that planets, the milky way etc is evidence that God is being hidden?
On the contrary; they reveal more of God's power, glory and creativity than we can ever know or understand.

The only thing that is bigger than God's vast, beautiful, powerful, awesome universe is the love that he has for each one of us - even though we are but specks of dust on weighing scales.
I feel sorry for you if you can't see how awesome God's creation, and therefore God, is

Strong in Him said:

Yes.

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Strong in Him said:

Yes.

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No - you don't realise it, but YOU are hiding God.

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I'm sorry but you are beyond help.

Apple Sky said:

I'm sorry but you are beyond help.

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You think that someone who talks of the power, the beauty, the glory and the sheer awesomeness of God is beyond help?
Tragic that you know so little about God.
What do you sing - "then sings my soul, my Saviour God to thee - how small thou art"?
I seriously recommend that you learn more about God in this life before you meet him in the next.

Strong in Him said:

I seriously recommend that you learn more about God in this life before you meet him in the next.

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I seriously recommend that you do & his creation.

Why didn't Moses just write ' In the beginning God made everything ' and why not just skip the days of creation ? It's because God knew how important it was for us to know what it was that he did for us.

He made the sun, the moon & the stars, these lights he made in order to give us signs for time & seasons, he made the moon to give us light in the dark & times of the months, not some rock for man to bounce around upon.

Seven days of creation, what a blessing

Apple Sky said:

Because us conspiracy theorist as you like to call us, know what NASA is like & what they'll do at any cost to keep their agendas believable.

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But the question surely is this: How can you possibly know what NASA is like if you have no evidence? That's like me saying, "I know what Apple Sky has for breakfast," when I have no evidence of what you eat for your first meal of the day.